Update on other ALPA negotiations? Porter, PAL, Canadian North

[HFNav]

Any poster have updates on other ALPA negotiations?

Can they pattern bargain above Transat? Better financials

Continue the 100% deadheads and other increases?

Commuter benefits? Confirmed seat commuting?

PAL get rid of bonds?

Porter pilots take lower benefits for connecting passengers to Transat?

Canadian North with new owner? Will winter northern work pay less to Transat Caribbean trips?

What should they aim for? Post your ideas

[Janitroll]

Canadian North with new owner? Will winter northern work pay less to Transat Caribbean trips?

Canadian North Pilots Reach Tentative Agreement
https://www.alpa.org/press-room/2026/03 ... -agreement


Working on old 737 in the north should be above what Air Canada & Flair pilots get.

[cjp]

Porter ALPA has yet to really have any meaningful discussions with management regarding negotiations. We saw this coming though, particularly after the dispatchers.

[FishermanIvan]

Canadian North with new owner? Will winter northern work pay less to Transat Caribbean trips?

Canadian North Pilots Reach Tentative Agreement
https://www.alpa.org/press-room/2026/03 ... -agreement


Working on old 737 in the north should be above what Air Canada & Flair pilots get.

Well, it isn’t, nor were we ever (realistically) expecting it to be.

The ATR pilots go back to the highest paid turboprop pilots in the country (we start basically at the top of every other payscale and Y12 on the ATR is $195K), and the 737 pilots are competitive (but lower) with WJ.

[co-joe]

And Flair pilots go back to being the lowest paid 737 pilots in the country, except our year 1 and 2 FOs, but by year three they become the lowest paid in the country as well. I'm happy for everyone that has now made good gains in the full cycle of contract negotiations of our entire industry over the past 2 years. More work remains...

[Donald]

Did Flair ratify? I thought they were going to arbitration.

[co-joe]

Did Flair ratify? I thought they were going to arbitration.

Not arbitration, conciliation. The government has a appointed a conciliator who will attempt to mediate between the union and management. That process is 60 days maximum.

[NignQue]

Porter ALPA has yet to really have any meaningful discussions with management regarding negotiationsmoviebox. We saw this coming though, particularly after the dispatchers.capcut pro apk

Does anyone have an update or timeline on when Porter management is actually expected to sit down with ALPA for meaningful talks?

[flyinhigh]

Based on the communications from both the MEC and Negots team, probably in 2028. Seems that they want to drag out everything as long as possible.

[cjp]

Based on the communications from both the MEC and Negots team, probably in 2028. Seems that they want to drag out everything as long as possible.

Bingo. There is no rush, they have the agreement they want.

[Speedbrakes]

Right now there is no timeline. But that can, and most likely will, change. If one or both parties request conciliation then that starts the timeline before legal work action can take place.

So if progress is being made (it isn't) and both parties are happy with the progress (the union isn't) then both parties can let this go on forever. But as soon as conciliation starts a rigid timeline is established.