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Dutch Bank steps up

#1 Post by groo » Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:31 am

Saw on the ticker on CBC that a the Deutch bank increased it's investment from 450 mill to 850 mill. AC only needs another 200 mill to come out of it.

Where is my wallet? :P
A few innacuracies, here is the story

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/04/27/bu ... ada_040427
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#2 Post by cyyz » Tue Apr 27, 2004 12:13 pm

Ah, God bless those Oranges.. =)
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#3 Post by cyyz » Tue Apr 27, 2004 12:13 pm

Ah, God bless those Oranges.. =)

Can't delete. +( How rude. =(
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#4 Post by SplitS » Tue Apr 27, 2004 4:07 pm

Wow, big news.

Could it work??
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#5 Post by Sage » Wed Apr 28, 2004 4:42 am

Uhhmmm, it's Deutsche Bank and they are not Dutch...they're German.
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#6 Post by cyyz » Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:43 am

ROFL.. My mistake and apologies.

But wasn't that the whole point of the two world wars. That Germany didn't own the West??

Well good to see they're taking over the world slowly and peacefully.

*Starts to learn German*

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#7 Post by lazionic » Wed Apr 28, 2004 5:41 pm

SplitS wrote:Wow, big news.

Could it work??
Yes it could work as long as the government changes the foreign ownership rules and the unions agree to it. Which the latter i doubt will happen.
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#8 Post by CClub » Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:51 pm

Those bloody unions better agree to something soon, or they will pay themselves out of a job.
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#9 Post by inverter » Sat May 08, 2004 5:19 pm

Concerning the AC issue, that if you ask me has eluded any sane buisiness man around, why haven't they gone under yet? It has been loosing money for a very very long time. So get it over with and close the doors. The pilots get paid way to much for the canadian market. I understand that they need to pay alimony to one, two even three ex-wives, but it still doesn't justify receiving 200K a year.
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#10 Post by Panama Jack » Sun May 09, 2004 7:30 am

inverter wrote:Concerning the AC issue, that if you ask me has eluded any sane buisiness man around, why haven't they gone under yet? It has been loosing money for a very very long time. So get it over with and close the doors. The pilots get paid way to much for the canadian market. I understand that they need to pay alimony to one, two even three ex-wives, but it still doesn't justify receiving 200K a year.

:roll: Panama Jack yawns with a bored look

All the employees could work for free right now and AC would still be in bad shape. Then we could say Westjet and Northern Stix Air Service's pilots are overpaid too. [/i]
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#11 Post by Panama Jack » Sun May 09, 2004 7:33 am

Double post deleated.
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Going nowhere quick!!!!

#12 Post by lazionic » Wed May 19, 2004 11:14 am

Air Canada Reaches Impasse in CAW Discussions

MONTREAL, May 19 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada announced that it has reached
an impasse after 16 days of discussions with the CAW aimed at achieving the
CAW's share of the $200 million cost savings to be achieved in order to
satisfy the labour condition in the Deutsche Bank Standby Purchase Agreement
and the GE Capital Aviation Services (GECAS) Global Restructuring Agreement.
"There was insufficient movement in the union's response to the Company's
offer of May 17 to warrant a continuation of discussions," said Paul Brotto,
Executive Vice President, Cost Control and Planning. "The Company's proposal
to the CAW is consistent with what was agreed to by all other employee groups
at Air Canada and Air Canada Jazz in terms of productivity and wage
reductions. We salute the leadership of ACPA, CUPE, the IAMAW, CALDA, and the
Jazz unions, ALPA, the Teamsters, and CALDA for the tremendous work
accomplished in the past few weeks. We are too close to our goal to turn back.
And so we will immediately commence discussions with Deutsche Bank and GECAS
to determine next steps."
Agreements were reached with the International Association of Machinists
and Aerospace Workers (IAMAW) representing 14,500 technical operations and
airport ground service, finance, cargo and clerical personnel, the Air Canada
Pilots Association (ACPA), representing approximately 3000 pilots at the
mainline carrier, the Canadian Airline Dispatchers Association (CALDA),
representing flight dispatchers. and CUPE, representing approximately
5,800 flight attendants. Tentative agreements have also been reached with all
unions representing Air Canada Jazz employees - the Airline Pilots Association
(ALPA), CALDA, CAW, and Teamsters Canada. Air Canada management and non-
unionized staff have also contributed their share of the $200 million cost
savings target.
The CAW Airline Division represents approximately 5000 customer sales and
service agents and crew schedulers at Air Canada and approximately 1400
employees at Air Canada Jazz comprised of customer service agents, maintenance
and engineering staff and crew schedulers.
On May 14, 2004, Air Canada and The Office of the Superintendent of
Financial Institutions (OSFI) reached an agreement which satisfies the pension
funding relief condition in the Deutsche Bank Standby Purchase Agreement,
eliminating one of the two remaining conditions that must be satisfied.
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