Driving history/abstract affect on pilot career

[altiplano]

That CCLA stuff is not the widespread practise that they're out there uploading every contact they make day in day out. I'm sure it's happened, but not the norm.

I have a buddy with a conviction from when he was young that was pardoned, US found out because he crossed, he flies for a large airline in this country and has to get a waiver every so many years. Costs him a couple thousands bucks with a lawyer every time...

[tomcruise2344]

You're saying the US found out because he crossed before he was granted a pardon or the us still found out even though he only tried to cross after the pardon was granted?

[altiplano]

He crossed before he was pardoned and that's why they know. It wouldn't have been there for USCBP to find when they ran him had he waited. Now it's in the CBP system forever, despite the subsequent pardon, and he has to deal with the waiver thing to ensure he doesn't have any issues at work.

Anyway, that's not your situation. Don't listen to these guys that have never ever made a mistake in their life. Seriously, your transgressions aren't major, but straighten up your act going forward, drive safe, be accountable for the mistakes you made in your past, and work hard. You'll do fine.

[nohojob]

He crossed before he was pardoned and that's why they know. It wouldn't have been there for USCBP to find when they ran him had he waited. Now it's in the CBP system forever, despite the subsequent pardon, and he has to deal with the waiver thing to ensure he doesn't have any issues at work.

Anyway, that's not your situation. Don't listen to these guys that have never ever made a mistake in their life. Seriously, your transgressions aren't major, but straighten up your act going forward, drive safe, be accountable for the mistakes you made in your past, and work hard. You'll do fine.

I think Altiplano sums it up. Enjoy your life.

[digits_]

Anyway, that's not your situation. Don't listen to these guys that have never ever made a mistake in their life. Seriously, your transgressions aren't major, but straighten up your act going forward, drive safe, be accountable for the mistakes you made in your past, and work hard. You'll do fine.

How can you say that with certainty without knowing what the at fault collisions are? Only the topic starter knows. Did they back into a car at walking speeds trying to parallel park or did they cripple a 12 year old because they T-boned the family car while speeding through a stop sign? Very major difference on how these things will be perceived. Given the "I was originally charged criminally with dangerous operation", I doubt it was a parking incident.

[altiplano]

I know because I know cops and a lot of cops will throw everything at a driver, especially a young one, just to see what sticks in their Dudley-do-good quest to climb the ladder, earn their stripes, and put people in front of judges.

Here the OP had charges layed by police and then dismissed by the crown. The crown knows these types of charges are subjective, unwarranted, and extremely difficult to prove. Maybe it's withdrawn or stayed, maybe it's reduced, whatever it is, it's not a criminal conviction (still innocent until proven guilty in this country) and traffic violations are not criminal violations even if you had a serious at fault accident.

[pelmet]

I know because I know cops and a lot of cops will throw everything at a driver, especially a young one, just to see what sticks in their Dudley-do-good quest to climb the ladder, earn their stripes, and put people in front of judges.

Here the OP had charges layed by police and then dismissed by the crown. The crown knows these types of charges are subjective, unwarranted, and extremely difficult to prove. Maybe it's withdrawn or stayed, maybe it's reduced, whatever it is, it's not a criminal conviction (still innocent until proven guilty in this country) and traffic violations are not criminal violations even if you had a serious at fault accident.

Hahaha....

Altiplano knows cops, so he knows the details of all accidents without any detail being given. Derangement alert. Remember that in the future for any opinion you get from that source…..

Let’s ask the original poster…..Tom Cruise. Could you please give us the details of both your at fault accidents, including injuries. More detail is better. Weather, vehicle types, type of road, traffic signs/signals, injuries, post accident actions…..and of course… infractions.

All we know at this point is that he was not over the legal limit for alcohol.

[tomcruise2344]

I'm not going to give more information as I dont want to be identified and start worrying about that as well lol. Ill just say that nobody was ever hurt. I think ill just straighten up and be more smarter and careful ahead and see how it goes. Ill never know if I dont try I guess. Thanks for all your help though.

[pelmet]

I'm not going to give more information as I dont want to be identified and start worrying about that as well lol. Ill just say that nobody was ever hurt. I think ill just straighten up and be more smarter and careful ahead and see how it goes. Ill never know if I dont try I guess. Thanks for all your help though.

As if you are going to somehow be identified. You don’t have to give street names/highway numbers. There are literally thousands of car crashes per day in Canada. No one is going to find out who you are if you give details.

Strongly suspect that full details would change opinions.

[khedrei]

Dont let him bully you into giving details.

I have known enough cops to know antipalo is dead right. Good honest police are the exception that prove the rule.

Funny, I have run into a couple of ex-cops that got involved with aviation and both seemed alright.

Why don't you give us some details about your experiences showing that good, honest police are the exception and how you became involved with them.

Likely response folks.....no details, with the excise of…..because I am bullying.

Sure. I dated one. The behavior was abhorrent. I was in a house full of them while they bragged about arresting people and insulting the public they swore to serve and protect. I watched 4 of them drink in the car on the way to a celebration where there was plenty of alcohol to be had but they just couldnt wait. They didnt even care if the cop that pulled up beside us saw them drinking. They made fun of people who were different. Blatantly, in front of everyone at the event. There were 3 tables of cops there and more than 2/3 were loud, obnoxious, and clearly annoying the rest of the event.

Her and I fought all the time about her behavior, and how I thought it was immature. That she would push her luck driving after a couple of drinks. She admitted she wasnt concerned because she knew she wouldnt get in trouble. I heard about traffic violations she got away with. I heard about the whole shift having to test their new PBT devices and all of them registering a reading while they were STARTING their shift. We broke up eventually because I couldnt deal with the immature hypocritical behavior.

And then, the worst "i told you so" ever. She died in an on duty car accident because she was driving too fast for the conditions.

So yeah, I got to know more cops on a personal level than most people ever do, and i can say with a high degree of confidence that what I say is true.

A friend of mine was murdered a few months ago by an ex police officer who had been charged with multiple violent and non violent crimes over the years.

At the same time, Im also tired of the crime, and soft on crime policies. I do NOT want to abolish the police because I know they are needed. All you have to do is go visit Burlington VT to see how well that policy worked out

Police see a lot of crap, and deal with the worst parts of our society. Part of the reason for that is because of the garbage liberal policies. Maybe thats why so many cops are dicks. Its unfortunate that they are, but that doesnt change the fact that they are.

Two things can be true at once. Cops can be dicks, but we also need them and still need to be tougher on crime. The minor offenses of the OP are not the same thing as the serious crime people are getting away with and why our cities are becoming disgusting.

Hows that for "no details response with the excise of"?

[Sulako]

I deleted the off-topic posts and I apologize for one of my posts being part of that. On-topic posts only please.

[altiplano]

Telling a kid to give up his career goals and look for a desk job, that he won't make it in this business because of a few tickets is factually incorrect and out of line. People, especially young people, can be impressionable and they come here for advice and mentoring, maybe they are on the outside looking in on an intimidating business.

Across this industry, and that includes this forum, those of us that have been in it for a while have a responsibility to the people coming in to lift them up, not gatekeep, be responsible in our advice, and treat their aspirations with respect.