In flight music!
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In flight music!
I don't want to spend another season where I fly all day with a stupid bar song stuck in my head from the night before! (most notoriously "Dontcha wish your g/f was hot like me... dontcha!")I'm dying to play my own music while flying to rid myself of these annoying tunes, and the vintage ADF just doesn't cut it anymore! I thought of just hooking my mp3 player up to the headset directly but I don't want to cut out the radio. Is there a device out there that allows for the radio to be the primary broadcaster and the mp3 player second? I was hoping for someting portable that I could just hookup to the headset jack but I can't find anything like it online. Ideas anyone?!
Just did a quick search on Sporty's website:
http://www.sportys.com/acb/showdetl.cfm ... ct_id=7145
Haven't used this product - most of our aircraft have the fancy music-stopping-when-a-radio-transmission-is-made feature built into the intercom, so all you have to do is plug in the MP3 player.
Cheers!
http://www.sportys.com/acb/showdetl.cfm ... ct_id=7145
Haven't used this product - most of our aircraft have the fancy music-stopping-when-a-radio-transmission-is-made feature built into the intercom, so all you have to do is plug in the MP3 player.
Cheers!
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Just put your earbuds under the David Clarks, then adjust the volume of both sources so that you can't miss a radio call and you're in business. No different than when you listened to the trusty old ADF. Have the MP3 player somewhat close so that you can hit the pause button for extended radio conversations if required.
It never seems to take long in these threads before somebody comes along and says doing anything other than sitting in the cockpit in stony silence waiting for the Grim Reaper's sharpened scythe to swing at you from a clear blue sky is against the regs, or irresponsible, or or or....
Use common sense, cruising through the Vancouver control zone at 4 in the afternoon at 1,000 ft without clearance because you're hoppin' & boppin' to tunes is obviously as stupid as you can get.
Spend about $150 for an adaptor if you think its really necessary, but I think its just a marketing ripoff..... a solution in search of a problem.
Fog
Just put your earbuds under the David Clarks, then adjust the volume of both sources so that you can't miss a radio call and you're in business. No different than when you listened to the trusty old ADF. Have the MP3 player somewhat close so that you can hit the pause button for extended radio conversations if required.
It never seems to take long in these threads before somebody comes along and says doing anything other than sitting in the cockpit in stony silence waiting for the Grim Reaper's sharpened scythe to swing at you from a clear blue sky is against the regs, or irresponsible, or or or....
Use common sense, cruising through the Vancouver control zone at 4 in the afternoon at 1,000 ft without clearance because you're hoppin' & boppin' to tunes is obviously as stupid as you can get.
Spend about $150 for an adaptor if you think its really necessary, but I think its just a marketing ripoff..... a solution in search of a problem.
Fog
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Maybe I'm just a motorhead...my favorite sound in the cockpit is the engine. As long as I hear that wonderful music from the engine...I am happy and content.
I think a side of 'Dark side of the moon' would be to relaxing...and some Judas Priest might instigate some aggressive manouvers.
I think a side of 'Dark side of the moon' would be to relaxing...and some Judas Priest might instigate some aggressive manouvers.
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I use my iPod while flying (had a CD player in there before) that cuts out when the radio comes on. I don't know what kind of wiring is required for this but it works great - there is no way you can miss a radio call. I've seen it in lots of planes and thought it was pretty commonplace.
In Flight Music
I have a FLIGHTCOM Model III Portable Intercom that lets me hook up my ipod or any device that you can plug in your normal head/ear phones with.
You just plug the Intercom into the aircraft's jacks and plug in your head set into the Portable Intercom. I got an extention on my Portable Intercom so that I can plug in 3 more head sets and all your passengers can listen to the music as well.
Well worth it up when flying long cross country legs up north.
About the engine...its up to you to control the volume...use common sense...
You just plug the Intercom into the aircraft's jacks and plug in your head set into the Portable Intercom. I got an extention on my Portable Intercom so that I can plug in 3 more head sets and all your passengers can listen to the music as well.
Well worth it up when flying long cross country legs up north.
About the engine...its up to you to control the volume...use common sense...
This will only work if the bird your flying has an intercom. If it does your in business.
What you need:
-Old/used small male plug with 6”of wire from a headset or an old PTT button plug (smaller of the two plugs)
-walkman headphone wire or plug with wire that will go into your MP3/CD/FM (adaptor wires works well). With a few (3+) feet of wire on it. How much wire depends on where you want to keep your mp3 player.
1. Strip the wires on the PTT wire plug it in the jack in your plane and see what wire when touched to the black will key the mike…. Cut THAT WIRE off flush and tape it. The other two wires are for sound +/-
2. Strip the wires on the other cord and wire it into mono. +’s together and -’s together.
Plug 1. into your MP3/CD/FM and with the intercom in your aircraft ON. 2. wire plugged into an empty passengers microphone jack touch the wires of both cords. (+ with +) & (-with -)
You should hear your music in your headset…. You can turn it up or down just like it was a passenger that wont shut up(pilot isolation switch works to mute music). Always keep your COM radio louder then your music. It takes some tinkering to get everything just right …squelch, music & radio volumes.
BE SURE TO TAPE UP ALL YOUR CONECTIONS!!!!
I made a wire patch cord like this when I was on a long flight a few years back. I almost always have my music on now in flight(except when I’m in busy airspace). I also use foam earplugs under my DC13.4’s.
Hope this works for you.
PT
What you need:
-Old/used small male plug with 6”of wire from a headset or an old PTT button plug (smaller of the two plugs)
-walkman headphone wire or plug with wire that will go into your MP3/CD/FM (adaptor wires works well). With a few (3+) feet of wire on it. How much wire depends on where you want to keep your mp3 player.
1. Strip the wires on the PTT wire plug it in the jack in your plane and see what wire when touched to the black will key the mike…. Cut THAT WIRE off flush and tape it. The other two wires are for sound +/-
2. Strip the wires on the other cord and wire it into mono. +’s together and -’s together.
Plug 1. into your MP3/CD/FM and with the intercom in your aircraft ON. 2. wire plugged into an empty passengers microphone jack touch the wires of both cords. (+ with +) & (-with -)
You should hear your music in your headset…. You can turn it up or down just like it was a passenger that wont shut up(pilot isolation switch works to mute music). Always keep your COM radio louder then your music. It takes some tinkering to get everything just right …squelch, music & radio volumes.
BE SURE TO TAPE UP ALL YOUR CONECTIONS!!!!
I made a wire patch cord like this when I was on a long flight a few years back. I almost always have my music on now in flight(except when I’m in busy airspace). I also use foam earplugs under my DC13.4’s.
Hope this works for you.
PT
kill your ears
i put my mp3 player earphones under my headset all summer while flying the beaver and i think i did some real damage to my ears. i had to have the volume at max to hear the music over the sound of the engine. outside of the plane the volume at max was uncomfotable. so if you add the engine and the mp3 player at max i think there is potential to really wreck your hearing. next summer i am going to try to get an adaptor like you guys have been talking about. i thought i was the only one doing it and people would frown on it but i think it is better than daydreaming and almost falling asleep up there.
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" i think there is potential to really wreck your hearing. next summer i am going to try to get an adaptor like you guys have been talking about. i thought i was the only one doing it and people would frown on it but i think it is better than daydreaming and almost falling asleep up there "
How about wrecking your airplane and the passengers who payed for the trip?
If you actually are paying so little attention to flying the airplane that you are falling asleep you maybe should find another job.
Cat
How about wrecking your airplane and the passengers who payed for the trip?
If you actually are paying so little attention to flying the airplane that you are falling asleep you maybe should find another job.
Cat
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
ever worked, cat?
you are right, cat. i guess i am the first ever tired and overworked driver, the only one who has ever run on short sleep no days off and non stop work.
jam your self righteousness, cat, cram it.
jam your self righteousness, cat, cram it.
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" you are right, cat. i guess i am the first ever tired and overworked driver, the only one who has ever run on short sleep no days off and non stop work. "
That is a real cop out, by making such a statement you are publically admitting that you are not aware of the rules and common sense decision making that you owe to your passengers and your family.
So in your mind you must work non stop even if it kills you?
" jam your self righteousness, cat, cram it. "
This comment does not improve your position regarding your obligation to safety as a pilot.
Maybe you should take a few deep breaths, get some sleep and re think what you are saying?
Sometimes we need to have a better look at why we do things....O.K. ?
Cat
That is a real cop out, by making such a statement you are publically admitting that you are not aware of the rules and common sense decision making that you owe to your passengers and your family.
So in your mind you must work non stop even if it kills you?
" jam your self righteousness, cat, cram it. "
This comment does not improve your position regarding your obligation to safety as a pilot.
Maybe you should take a few deep breaths, get some sleep and re think what you are saying?
Sometimes we need to have a better look at why we do things....O.K. ?
Cat
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
new topic
alright, cat, let's try something. i am going to start a new thread regarding fatigue and pressure to work and we'll get some third party input on this. i know that i am not alone in having to work while tired.
people have to work while they are tired in all kinds of jobs, eg., emergency room doctors/nurses. would you call them out and accuse them of being reckless because they feel they have to work the shifts to keep their jobs?
anyone who has worked more than a week in aviation has probably been pressured into working when they were tired or stressed or had issues at home. it would be nice to live in a transport canada human factors video but the fact is bush operators milk every ounce they can from their pilots. don't point a finger at me and tell me i should find a new job if i am working tired. you are going to tell me you have worked as a pilot and never been tired? you are unique or had mighty kind employers if that is the case.
look for the new thread, i'll try to set it up in an unbiased manner and see what it brings in.
people have to work while they are tired in all kinds of jobs, eg., emergency room doctors/nurses. would you call them out and accuse them of being reckless because they feel they have to work the shifts to keep their jobs?
anyone who has worked more than a week in aviation has probably been pressured into working when they were tired or stressed or had issues at home. it would be nice to live in a transport canada human factors video but the fact is bush operators milk every ounce they can from their pilots. don't point a finger at me and tell me i should find a new job if i am working tired. you are going to tell me you have worked as a pilot and never been tired? you are unique or had mighty kind employers if that is the case.
look for the new thread, i'll try to set it up in an unbiased manner and see what it brings in.
I got your back Xray44.
Anyone who says they haven't flown fatigued is lying. Anyone who says they haven't had the nods is lying.
It's your 10th straight day of 10hrs+ duty days. You woke up at 3:30 am to be off the water at the crack of dawn and have done over 10 legs today. You slept like a baby, but those 8 hours of prone rest sure went fast. It's another hot July day, calling for a high of 35. The loads are big and your passengers are lazy and unwilling to help. Back at the base, it's choas because one of the dockhands has the day off. You run around like a chicken with your head cut off trying to fuel, load, take a leak, grab a sandwich, fill your water bottle AND answer stupid questions about the fishing on BFN Lake. Listening to the drone of the 985 all day, you've been bouncing around low level just to get a half decent ground speed. Now it's duty hour 13 on you last leg home, the sun is in your eyes and the cockpit is hot.
TIRED YET? Damn right.
We all do our best to stay healthy and rested, but we are only human. And it's not only the bottom feeders of the industry that are tired. Ever see a 747 crew after a 7 day paired - it's like watching Dawn of the Dead.
Not saying it's right, just saying is happens
Anyone who says they haven't flown fatigued is lying. Anyone who says they haven't had the nods is lying.
It's your 10th straight day of 10hrs+ duty days. You woke up at 3:30 am to be off the water at the crack of dawn and have done over 10 legs today. You slept like a baby, but those 8 hours of prone rest sure went fast. It's another hot July day, calling for a high of 35. The loads are big and your passengers are lazy and unwilling to help. Back at the base, it's choas because one of the dockhands has the day off. You run around like a chicken with your head cut off trying to fuel, load, take a leak, grab a sandwich, fill your water bottle AND answer stupid questions about the fishing on BFN Lake. Listening to the drone of the 985 all day, you've been bouncing around low level just to get a half decent ground speed. Now it's duty hour 13 on you last leg home, the sun is in your eyes and the cockpit is hot.
TIRED YET? Damn right.
We all do our best to stay healthy and rested, but we are only human. And it's not only the bottom feeders of the industry that are tired. Ever see a 747 crew after a 7 day paired - it's like watching Dawn of the Dead.
Not saying it's right, just saying is happens
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Just thinking the same about XM this summer,I fly for hours without talkign to anyone 
so lonely......... My bird is equipt with a built in jack to connect my Ipod to, It cuts out when Radio traffic comes on and with an ANR headset the Music sounds crystal clear.
As for hearing loss I fly a BN2 so id rather loose my hearing to music than that.
so lonely......... My bird is equipt with a built in jack to connect my Ipod to, It cuts out when Radio traffic comes on and with an ANR headset the Music sounds crystal clear. As for hearing loss I fly a BN2 so id rather loose my hearing to music than that.
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Cat I flew in a 2 blade prop C185 with no intercom, no radio, just yelling back and forth. I was the passenger so I didnt have to fly....The pilot was amazed that I could fall asleep in that much noise. Truth be told I couldnt stay awake. I didnt have anything to concentrate on so the drone of the engine kept knocking me out.
I believe this was covered in groundschool, I am sure that everyone has suddenly gotten overcome from fatigue from hearing the engine for a while. Just dont let it get the best of you.
I believe this was covered in groundschool, I am sure that everyone has suddenly gotten overcome from fatigue from hearing the engine for a while. Just dont let it get the best of you.
She’s built like a Steakhouse, but she handles like a Bistro.
Let's kick the tires, and light the fires.... SHIT! FIRE! EMERGENCY CHECKLIST!
Let's kick the tires, and light the fires.... SHIT! FIRE! EMERGENCY CHECKLIST!
After searching the forums with no such luck on what exactly I need, I figured I would post now that I have found the right cables and tested it.
This way you can plug in an mp3 player in series with your headset and it won't cut out. Just keep the volume down and you can hear all transmissions fine.
All of the cables can be found at one stop at "The Source by Circuit City" aka the old Radio Shack.
9" - 1/4" STEREO HEADPHONE Y-ADAPTER (Cat Number: 420-2155 Cost: $8.99)
6' - 1/4" PLUG CABLE (Cat Number: 420-2381 Cost: $7.99)
1/4" STEREO JACK TO 1/8" STEREO PLUG (Cat Number: 274-0875 Cost: $6.99)
Total: $27.33 when all said and done
For under $30.00 you can't go wrong. Simply plug the the 1/4" cable into the plane output and the other end into one of the 1/4" inputs on the Y-Adapter. Take the 1/4" to 1/8 Adapter and plug it into the only male end on the Y-Cable and plug the 1/8" into your Mp3 Player. You then have only one output jack left. Plug your Headset into it and the Mic jack into the Plane.
Just bring a piece of paper in with those 3 catolog numbers and they'll hook you up. Or if your in Sarnia, I'm at the mall and I'll hook you up.
Voila. Tested through DC's and works perfect for what I want.
This way you can plug in an mp3 player in series with your headset and it won't cut out. Just keep the volume down and you can hear all transmissions fine.
All of the cables can be found at one stop at "The Source by Circuit City" aka the old Radio Shack.
9" - 1/4" STEREO HEADPHONE Y-ADAPTER (Cat Number: 420-2155 Cost: $8.99)
6' - 1/4" PLUG CABLE (Cat Number: 420-2381 Cost: $7.99)
1/4" STEREO JACK TO 1/8" STEREO PLUG (Cat Number: 274-0875 Cost: $6.99)
Total: $27.33 when all said and done
For under $30.00 you can't go wrong. Simply plug the the 1/4" cable into the plane output and the other end into one of the 1/4" inputs on the Y-Adapter. Take the 1/4" to 1/8 Adapter and plug it into the only male end on the Y-Cable and plug the 1/8" into your Mp3 Player. You then have only one output jack left. Plug your Headset into it and the Mic jack into the Plane.
Just bring a piece of paper in with those 3 catolog numbers and they'll hook you up. Or if your in Sarnia, I'm at the mall and I'll hook you up.
Voila. Tested through DC's and works perfect for what I want.
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Just put your earbuds under the David Clarks, then adjust the volume of both sources so that you can't miss a radio call and you're in business.
Fog
Got my iPod shuffle with me at all times - days without it go by SOOO much slower.
You'll be surprised how loud you can have your music and still have perimeter nine-eight-eight a dash eight six hundred bloody miles south of nowhere at flightlevel one-six-oh enroute from winnipeg to the middle of nowhere we'll be nowhere in one hour and twenty minutes conflicts it's perimeter nine eight eight twenty six seven twenty two eight come through just loud enough.
Of course, keep the volume and pause within easy reach (you can buy mounting things or just some velcro to stick to the panel or yoke) and all will be well.
I agree the adapter things are a marketing ploy.
Sorry about the jab at perimeter's -8, nothing personal there are just SO MANY of them...
I have a challange for someone with big brains...
Would it be possible to take an FM transmitter and make it so it can go up into the VOR range? Now you have a real cheap item that can maybe be moded and everyone on the intercom can here the tunes. Also you wouldn't have the mess of wires running around. Just a thought, maybe possible...???
Would it be possible to take an FM transmitter and make it so it can go up into the VOR range? Now you have a real cheap item that can maybe be moded and everyone on the intercom can here the tunes. Also you wouldn't have the mess of wires running around. Just a thought, maybe possible...???
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I went out and bought a PA200T ipod/ cell phone/ dual comm. adapter. It works alright..the excess ammount of chords can be a pain in the arse..also..where the adpter plugs in to the main comm. units needs duct tape on occasion to prevent the the thing from jiggling around..good asset on a cross country..no missed radio calles due to the music volume * *DECREASING LOTS* NOT CUTTING OUT COMPLETELY ..as it was advertised..now they tell me 
..but she still works great..
..but she still works great..Back many years ago, the dispatcher at Air ***** up in northern **** would take a big rubber band and hold down the PTT switch on a mic, then place the mic on top of a ghetto blaster.
Company aircraft would dial into company frequency and bop along. If they needed to reach company, they'd call the local FSS on freq and get them to call the dispatcher.
The good olde days.
Company aircraft would dial into company frequency and bop along. If they needed to reach company, they'd call the local FSS on freq and get them to call the dispatcher.
The good olde days.
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