Fighter Pilot (Ontario Science Centre)

wan2fly99 · Post by **wan2fly99** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:26 am

Has anybody gone and seen this film at the Ontario Science Centre?

Saw it advertized in the paper and the news. Its about 45 minutues I believe.

Any comments?

ch135146 · Post by **ch135146** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:39 am

wan2fly99 wrote:Any comments?

I saw a preview of it in the Science Centre's Omnimax theatre two weeks ago.

Looks to be exciting, but with a large helping of the usual US Military bullshit. Plus, fighter pukes are always legends-in-their-own-minds, wherever they're from!

(I like Americans, travel there a lot, and am pro-military.)

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:32 am

What an odd film to be playing in Toronto, which is probably the Canadian center of leftist/pacifist/anti-USA sentiment.

I wasn't even aware that Canada still had any fighter pilots. I'm not sure why we would, since I understand that:

1) Canadian aircraft aren't allowed to hurt anyone, and

2) Canada cannot deploy our F-18's, and

3) Canada is incapable of in-flight refuelling our F-18's

4) Canada's F-18 have obsolete electronics, incapable of communicating with our allies, which makes them a liability on the battlefield.

Pretty sad, given our history ... I'll bet darned few Canadian aviation enthusiasts here could even name 3 "ace" Canadian fighter pilots, which is pretty sad.

Trudeau won, it would seem.

Mitch Cronin · Post by **Mitch Cronin** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:19 am

William Bishop 72 WWI
Raymond Collishaw 62 WWI
Donald MacLaren 54 WWI
William Barker 50(53? 52?) WWI
A. C. Atkey 38 WWI
F. R. McCall 37 WWI
William G. Claxton 36(40?) WWI
J. S. T. Fall 36 WWI
A. D. "Nick" Carter 31 WWI
A. E. McKeever 30 WWI
Arthur R. Brown 13(12?) WWI

George F. Beurling 31.5 WWII
Vernon C. Woodward 21.8 WWII
H. W. McLeod 21 WWII
Robert W. McNair 17 WWII
George Wittman 17 WWII
J. F. Edwards 16.5 WWII
W. L. McKnight 16.5 WWII
R. A. Barton 16 WWII
E. J. F. Charles 15.5 WWII
J. F. Edwards 15 WWII
D. C. Laubman 15 WWII
W. T. Klersy 14.5 WWII
G. U. Hill 14 WWII
R. I. A. Smith 13.5 WWII
R. C. Fumerton 13 WWII
G. C. Keefer 13 WWII
J. A. Kent 13 WWII
J. H. Turnbull 12.5 WWII
Lloyd Chadburn 12 WWII
P. S. Turner 11.5 WWII
John MacKay 11.2(12.2 Korea) WWII
Russ Bannock 11(+19 V-1) WWII
John F. McElroy 10.5(13.5 Middle East) WWII
R. J. Audet 10.5 WWII
R. A. Kipp 10.5 WWII
J. D. Mitchner 10.5 WWII
D. W. Schmidt 10.5 WWII
J. E. Walker 10.5 WWII
A. U. Houle 10 WWII
J. W. Williams 10 WWII
D. C. Gordon 10 WWII
I. F. Kennedy 10 WWII
J. Lindsey 7(2 Korea) WWII
James Henry Whalen 6 WWII
Peter Blatchford 5 WWII

John MacKay 12.2(11.2 WWII) Korea
J. Lindsay 9(7 WWII) Korea

Brewguy · Post by **Brewguy** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:08 pm

Great job Mitch!

I was going to post a similar list, but you beat me to it.

Hedley: you should also be aware that in Canada (actually, in most commonwealth air forces) the term "high scorer" is used, not "ace".

You may be interested to know, that there are some who keep the memory of these people very much alive. Many years ago when I was in the Air Cadets; I attended the Senior Leaders course in Cold Lake. All of the units within the course were named after these Canadian high-scoring pilots. We had to know the in-depth biographys of the person who both our flight and squadron were named after. For example, I was in McLeod flight, Bishop squadron - and therefore learned all about these two pilots.

DLB · Post by **DLB** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:06 pm

Peter Blatchford knocked one of his victories down by ramming it. It was an Italian biplane during the one and only raid that Mr. Mussolini's people carried out against England during the BofB.

Billy Barker won his VC for getting five Germans after he was attacked by an entire enemy fighter wing (50ish against 1).

2 of Raymond Collishaw's victories were actually Communist aircraft downed during the western intervention in Russia in 1919.

I guess I know a fair bit about this stuff for a leftist/pacifist/anti-USA Torontonian. Why dont you stop slagging your country, or parts of it, if you are such a goddam nationalist.

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:09 pm

goddam nationalist

Correction: That's "goddamned nationalist", if you please.

Having lived more years than I really want to admit to in Toronto, I think I can fairly say that if Canada ever has an enema, Toronto is where they should stick the tube in

complexintentions · Post by **complexintentions** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:05 pm

Hedley wrote:
goddam nationalist
Correction: That's "goddamned nationalist", if you please.

Having lived more years than I really want to admit to in Toronto, I think I can fairly say that if Canada ever has an enema, Toronto is where they should stick the tube in

heheheheh my vote for rebuttal-of-the-day...

DLB · Post by **DLB** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:02 am

Goodness me, an ultra-conservative who has actually finished grade 10. If only your political outlook were as sophisticated as your grammar skills.

As for the enema crack (no pun intended), please feel free to move. Please.

C-FABH · Post by **C-FABH** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:07 pm

I went and saw the film a couple of weekends ago.

I quite liked it, a lot of the explanations were simplified of course, but there is some amazing air-to-air footage and camera work. Great eye candy and well worth seeing on IMAX.

FL410 · Post by **FL410** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:41 pm

Yes, the air-to-air footage is very good. It's designed to appeal to non-pilots, but I thought it was well done just the same.

BirdDog IV · Post by **BirdDog IV** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:51 pm

do you remember what the adult admission price was...and was the Movie
woth it?

cone · Post by **cone** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 11:11 am

Hedley wrote:What an odd film to be playing in Toronto, which is probably the Canadian center of leftist/pacifist/anti-USA sentiment.

I wasn't even aware that Canada still had any fighter pilots. I'm not sure why we would, since I understand that:

1) Canadian aircraft aren't allowed to hurt anyone, and

2) Canada cannot deploy our F-18's, and

3) Canada is incapable of in-flight refuelling our F-18's

4) Canada's F-18 have obsolete electronics, incapable of communicating with our allies, which makes them a liability on the battlefield.

Pretty sad, given our history ... I'll bet darned few Canadian aviation enthusiasts here could even name 3 "ace" Canadian fighter pilots, which is pretty sad.

Trudeau won, it would seem.

Dude you're an idiot.

1. Yes we can hurt people...eg Kosovo air campaign

2. Yes we can deploy our F-18s...same example

3. CF-18s can and always have been able to air to air refuel, from Canadian C-130s or a multitude of other tankers.

4. Canada's CF-18s have been and are still being upgraded with new radars and modern avionics, including anti-jam radios and data link.

Maybe you should have some remote idea what you're talking about before you post. And your comment about aces has already been addressed....tool

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 11:58 am

HOMO

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