Large A/C training

JACKASS · Post by **JACKASS** » Tue May 11, 2004 2:58 pm

when doing your company training in a metro/1900 or any eqivilant aircraft is it the same as any other light aircraft with stalls, steep turns, manual gear extentions, and engine shut downs, or is the main focus on how to operate the numorus systems and less focus to the Oh $hit situations

Inverted2 · Post by **Inverted2** » Tue May 11, 2004 3:05 pm

I do my 1900 training in a simulator an there's lots of oh-$hit stuff going on! Much more than you could safely do in a real aircraft.

oldtimer · Post by **oldtimer** » Tue May 11, 2004 3:35 pm

Stalls are a required item on an intial ppc and thereafter only as required. For a complete description, go to TC's web site and go to CASS 724.115. it will give a complete descrition of what is required as far as training is concerned. Also look up Manuals - Approved Check Pilot Manual - that is the bible. Also contains good hints at what others have done to screw up.

just curious · Post by **just curious** » Wed May 12, 2004 7:03 am

Actually, having had my coffee this morning here's the ACP manual:
http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/comme ... tm#tp6533e

Carl · Post by **Carl** » Wed May 12, 2004 11:46 am

You do the oh sh*t stuff.....You do an engine failure in the overshoot and then a single engine landing which was a result of having to shut down and engine..... Steep turns, approach to stalls. Typical ride. Nothing you wouldnt have done before at some point. The sim is great for loading you up with things that you would not normally see.

Tube Driver · Post by **Tube Driver** » Wed May 12, 2004 10:10 pm

Safe to say that everthing you would do in a light twin you would do on a Metro. However there is a large foucus on the two crew concept, or Cockpit Resource Management, (C.R.M.), and on Standard Operating Proceedures, (S.O.P.s). So my advice to you would be to know your aircraft systems, limitations etc... as well as your basic I.F.R. But make sure that you know your S.O.P.s cold. Nothing looks worse to a Captain then a new guy in the right seat who does not know his S.O.P.s because this is bookwork and memory work, and to not know them just indicates to the guy in the left seat that you are, or have the potential to be lazy. We are all willing to go the extra mile to help a guy with his flying skills when he gets on a new aircraft (or at least we should be), but if you do not know your S.O.P.s you can make a bad first impression. Besides proper crew co-ordination is what will pull your ass out of a bad situation or prevent it from being in one in the first place.