Continuing on from another thread, I'm going on the record and saying Top Gun sucks . I hate the film. I honestly don't know why people in this industry keep relating to such a cheesy movie.
So here's the poll, you have my opinion. Discuss..
Top Gun Sucks
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Magnanimous
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What do you mean you haven't seen the movie yet??I havnt seen the movie yet lol
Top Gun`s an awesome movie but then again how would you know, you're everyone's problem. That's because every time you go up in the air, you're unsafe. I don't like you because you're dangerous.
Great balls of fire!
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Tom Cruise is dangerous. Every time he goes up in the air, he's unsafe. I don't like him because he's dangerous. And that makes him dangerous!
"Yeah. There is a problem. You...because you're dangerous. You're dangerous and foolish - and that makes you dangerous! Now, let's cut the...crap. We've got a plane to fly. Let's try to be on time, okay?"
~Val Kilmer, Saturday Night Live
~Val Kilmer, Saturday Night Live
Saw it in the theater (twice I think), don't know how many times on TV. And yes, we even took a trip to Miramar and had a tour there. Still have the Top Gun hat and pins they gave me there. As a teenager it was pretty cool walking around the fighters on the active ramp with the deafening roar of engines and smell of jet fuel all around.
Top Gun used to be the benchmark for home theatre systems. Sounded really awesome on the old VHS pumped through the surround sound on the stereo.
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That just proves your straight. I gotta wonder about guys that are so into what is obvliously the equivilent of a gay cowboy movie.FlyYukon wrote:I havnt seen the movie yet lol
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Best part of the movie is the intro. I can't get enough of how that movie starts with the music and the f-14's. It brings a huge smile to my face every time.
I have the DVD and in the special features, or whatever, the producer said he paid a huge sum of money (100,000 i think) just so he would get the carrier to turn away from the sun so he could get the perfect lighting.
I have the DVD and in the special features, or whatever, the producer said he paid a huge sum of money (100,000 i think) just so he would get the carrier to turn away from the sun so he could get the perfect lighting.
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 4848098127Dust Devil wrote:gotta wonder about guys that are so into what is obvliously the equivilent of a gay cowboy movie.
Gotta love recuts
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"It's not the size of the hammer, it's how you nail" - Kanga
I think Tarantino hits the nail on the head right here....
Quentin's Monologue from 'Sleep With Me'
Originally written by Roger Avary
What's a film about, what's it really about? What genre does it take?
[Duane: What, like the spine? Like one sentence?]
No, I don't, fucking boy meets girl, I don't give a shit about that. @#$! boy meets girl, @#$! motorcycle movie. No, what is really being said? What's really being said, that's what you're talking about. 'Cause the whole idea, man, is subversion. You want subversion on a massive level. You know what one of the greatest fucking scripts ever written in the history of Hollywood is? Top Gun.
[Duane: Oh, come on.]
Top Gun is fucking great. What is Top Gun? You think it's a story about a bunch of fighter pilots. [Duane: It's about a bunch of guys waving their dicks around.] It is a story about a man's struggle with his own homosexuality. It is! That is what Top Gun is about, man.
You've got Maverick, all right? He's on the edge, man. He's right on the fucking line, all right? And you've got Iceman, and all his crew. They're gay, they represent the gay man, all right? And they're saying, go, go the gay way, go the gay way. He could go both ways.
[Duane: What about Kelly McGillis?]
Kelly McGillis, she's heterosexuality. She's saying: no, no, no, no, no, no, go the normal way, play by the rules, go the normal way. They're saying no, go the gay way, be the gay way, go for the gay way, all right? That is what's going on throughout that whole movie...
He goes to her house, all right? It looks like they're going to have sex, you know, they're just kind of sitting back, he's takin' a shower and everything. They don't have sex. He gets on the motorcycle, drives away. She's like, "What the @#$!, what the @#$! is going on here?" Next scene, next scene you see her, she's in the elevator, she is dressed like a guy. She's got the cap on, she's got the aviator glasses, she's wearing the same jacket that the Iceman wears. She is, okay, this is how I gotta get this guy, this guy's going towards the gay way, I gotta bring him back, I gotta bring him back from the gay way, so I'm do that through subterfuge, I'm gonna dress like a man. All right? That is how she approaches it.
Okay, now let me just ask you--I'm gonna digress for two seconds here. I met this girl Amy here, she's like floating around here and everything. Now, she just got divorced, right?...
All right, but the REAL ending of the movie is when they fight the MIGs at the end, all right? Because he has passed over into the gay way. They are this gay fighting fucking force, all right? And they're beating the Russians, the gays are beating the Russians. And it's over, and they fucking land, and Iceman's been trying to get Maverick the entire time, and finally, he's got him, all right? And what is the last fucking line that they have together? They're all hugging and kissing and happy with each other, and Ice comes up to Maverick, and he says, "Man, you can ride my tail, anytime!" And what does Maverick say? "You can ride mine!" Swordfight! Swordfight! Fuckin' A, man!
And on a similar note, from the June 1995 Details profile of Val Kilmer:
He got all buffed out for the role of Iceman, Tom Cruise's adversary, and while he didn't like the script ("I turned it down at first, but Paramount had an option they exercised, so I had to do it"), Top Gun remains a key film of the '80s--the most representative of not only what was wrong with movies but what was wrong with this country's values. It's also the most unintentionally gay movie ever made by a big studio, so homoerotic it's like some kind of camp joke. It's impossible to watch it without thinking of Quentin Tarantino's hilarious monologue about the movie's gay subtext in the we're-hip-screenwriters-in-Hollywood flick Sleep With Me, which Kilmer hasn't seen. All he'll say about the above, while smiling, is "Oh yeah?"
C'mon, Val. When were we all fucking born? Yesterday? The day before that? We know you sit around at 4a.m. with your VCR and a copy of Sleep With Me, holding your head in your hands, moaning, "What have I done? Dear God, what have I DONE?!" C'mon, Batguy, 'fess up.
Quentin's Monologue from 'Sleep With Me'
Originally written by Roger Avary
What's a film about, what's it really about? What genre does it take?
[Duane: What, like the spine? Like one sentence?]
No, I don't, fucking boy meets girl, I don't give a shit about that. @#$! boy meets girl, @#$! motorcycle movie. No, what is really being said? What's really being said, that's what you're talking about. 'Cause the whole idea, man, is subversion. You want subversion on a massive level. You know what one of the greatest fucking scripts ever written in the history of Hollywood is? Top Gun.
[Duane: Oh, come on.]
Top Gun is fucking great. What is Top Gun? You think it's a story about a bunch of fighter pilots. [Duane: It's about a bunch of guys waving their dicks around.] It is a story about a man's struggle with his own homosexuality. It is! That is what Top Gun is about, man.
You've got Maverick, all right? He's on the edge, man. He's right on the fucking line, all right? And you've got Iceman, and all his crew. They're gay, they represent the gay man, all right? And they're saying, go, go the gay way, go the gay way. He could go both ways.
[Duane: What about Kelly McGillis?]
Kelly McGillis, she's heterosexuality. She's saying: no, no, no, no, no, no, go the normal way, play by the rules, go the normal way. They're saying no, go the gay way, be the gay way, go for the gay way, all right? That is what's going on throughout that whole movie...
He goes to her house, all right? It looks like they're going to have sex, you know, they're just kind of sitting back, he's takin' a shower and everything. They don't have sex. He gets on the motorcycle, drives away. She's like, "What the @#$!, what the @#$! is going on here?" Next scene, next scene you see her, she's in the elevator, she is dressed like a guy. She's got the cap on, she's got the aviator glasses, she's wearing the same jacket that the Iceman wears. She is, okay, this is how I gotta get this guy, this guy's going towards the gay way, I gotta bring him back, I gotta bring him back from the gay way, so I'm do that through subterfuge, I'm gonna dress like a man. All right? That is how she approaches it.
Okay, now let me just ask you--I'm gonna digress for two seconds here. I met this girl Amy here, she's like floating around here and everything. Now, she just got divorced, right?...
All right, but the REAL ending of the movie is when they fight the MIGs at the end, all right? Because he has passed over into the gay way. They are this gay fighting fucking force, all right? And they're beating the Russians, the gays are beating the Russians. And it's over, and they fucking land, and Iceman's been trying to get Maverick the entire time, and finally, he's got him, all right? And what is the last fucking line that they have together? They're all hugging and kissing and happy with each other, and Ice comes up to Maverick, and he says, "Man, you can ride my tail, anytime!" And what does Maverick say? "You can ride mine!" Swordfight! Swordfight! Fuckin' A, man!
And on a similar note, from the June 1995 Details profile of Val Kilmer:
He got all buffed out for the role of Iceman, Tom Cruise's adversary, and while he didn't like the script ("I turned it down at first, but Paramount had an option they exercised, so I had to do it"), Top Gun remains a key film of the '80s--the most representative of not only what was wrong with movies but what was wrong with this country's values. It's also the most unintentionally gay movie ever made by a big studio, so homoerotic it's like some kind of camp joke. It's impossible to watch it without thinking of Quentin Tarantino's hilarious monologue about the movie's gay subtext in the we're-hip-screenwriters-in-Hollywood flick Sleep With Me, which Kilmer hasn't seen. All he'll say about the above, while smiling, is "Oh yeah?"
C'mon, Val. When were we all fucking born? Yesterday? The day before that? We know you sit around at 4a.m. with your VCR and a copy of Sleep With Me, holding your head in your hands, moaning, "What have I done? Dear God, what have I DONE?!" C'mon, Batguy, 'fess up.
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Get the dvd and use the english subtitles and Read aloud what is spoken .That words in that movie are totally funny. 
The dogfight scene "move your ass i am in the sh@@ "totally funny
The pouting steam scenes between Ice-man and Maverick total spoofing .How it ever got past the Navy censors and the moral crowd adds to the humour of it .
I had a commercial student who when i asked him why he wanted to be a pilot he said because he watched Topgun 72 times .When i told him that ' it was the biggest closet spoof movie of all time' he was sick to his stomach.I was relieved that his only interest in the movie was the flying .
He now flies for a large Airline .
The dogfight scene "move your ass i am in the sh@@ "totally funny
The pouting steam scenes between Ice-man and Maverick total spoofing .How it ever got past the Navy censors and the moral crowd adds to the humour of it .
I had a commercial student who when i asked him why he wanted to be a pilot he said because he watched Topgun 72 times .When i told him that ' it was the biggest closet spoof movie of all time' he was sick to his stomach.I was relieved that his only interest in the movie was the flying .
He now flies for a large Airline .
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Top Gun Brokeback Squadron
Brokeback Top Gun Squadron 
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... &q=top+gun
Hopefully its not a repost... I swear its not the same movie those retards made in the Cessnas.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... &q=top+gun
Hopefully its not a repost... I swear its not the same movie those retards made in the Cessnas.
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The flying sequencies are okay, but if you want a GOOD aviation war film, check out "Battle Of Britain" starring "my name's" Michael Caine. Excellent flying sequencies, some classic lines - "...you'll be spread all over this airfield like strawberry jam!", and given it's age, the fx are good (apart from the JU87 crashing into the radar tower!).
Best of all though, no short arse actor trying to be 6' tall by standing on a (out of shot) box. And no "gosh, gee, ain't America great" self-patronizing crap at the end!
Best of all though, no short arse actor trying to be 6' tall by standing on a (out of shot) box. And no "gosh, gee, ain't America great" self-patronizing crap at the end!
It's called Football, not soccer!
