Canmore Crash

xenon · Post by **xenon** » Sun May 09, 2004 2:18 pm

Any info on the crash in Canmore yesterday? My respect to the families and friends of those killed.

DA900 · Post by **DA900** » Sun May 09, 2004 7:28 pm

Sun, May 9, 2004
Survivor in plane crash
Rescue crews also find one dead as small aircraft goes down near Canmore

The sole survivor of a downed plane near Canmore staggered from the crash site for kilometres before being rescued last night. "Rescuers located the body of one of the plane's occupants inside the wreckage and located footprints walking away from the crash site," said Cpl. Keith Blake of the Kananaskis detachment.

Sgt. Glenn Gray, of the Canadian Forces Joint Search and Rescue Centre in Trenton, Ont., said the plane, with two Calgary-area men onboard, was reported overdue at about 4:30 p.m.

An air search was launched and the plane was located by civilian search-and-rescue volunteers around 7:30 p.m.

One man was confirmed killed in the crash, but -- with military and private aircraft circling overhead -- the only other occupant of the aircraft managed to escape the wreckage and make his way to safety.

"One survivor was found wandering in the woods, three kilometres from the crash site," said RCMP spokeswoman Const. Kerry Doran.

The survivor was transported to Foothills Hospital with non-life threatening injuries.

The two people on board were believed to be from the Springbank area, but Gray could provide no further details on who they were or their ages.

"We have to wait until the proper authorities are notified," he said.

The plane, a Beach 180 Piper, was on what appears to have been a recreational or instructional flight when it went down near Canmore, about 100 km west of Calgary.

The plane left Springbank Airport at about 1:15 p.m. and was scheduled to travel to Spray Lake in Kananaskis prior to returning to Springbank.

Doran said an aircraft emergency transponder signal had been picked up at about the time the plane went missing.

The body of the man killed in the crash is expected to be removed from the crash site today.

xenon · Post by **xenon** » Sun May 09, 2004 9:25 pm

I flew out of Springbank yesterday and the winds were gusting to over 30 knots in the afternoon along with turbulence. It was certainly not a good day for mountain flying.

TheCheez · Post by **TheCheez** » Sun May 09, 2004 11:07 pm

CTV today said the pilot who died was an instructor and president of Springbank Aero Services though his name escapes me. The plane belonged to the one who survived and he was based in Kingston.

Sad day for us.

I'd Rather Be Flying · Mon May 10, 2004 9:43 am

There's an article in today's Calgary Sun newspaper. Tough to hear about these things as sometimes these are people we've known for some time and dealt with in aviation for many years. It always hits home a bit more when it's someone you know.

Condolences to loved ones and friends.

One more thing...fly safe everyone.

Blastor · Post by **Blastor** » Mon May 10, 2004 10:49 am

No surprise....

Glad the other occupant made it alive!

flyinthebug · Post by **flyinthebug** » Mon May 10, 2004 11:55 am

Blastor, "No surprise"?? Im hoping that maybe im misunderstanding you here? No surprise that this pilot crashed? OR are you referring to the weather conditions that day? If it was a "shot" at the person onboard, that is a classless & tasteless thing to say. This man , whether you liked him or not, or whether you thought his pilot skills were weak, is someones father, brother, husband and friend. So, im hoping I misunderstood what you meant, because the LACK of RESPECT that would be showing to his grieving family and friends is simply pathetic. Please clarify if I misread your post. If I didnt, then grow some class, because if that was MY father, brother, or friend you just ripped that way, after his death, i`d find you and ask for an explanation of your comments, and not be a very happy guy when we met. A fellow pilot died, thats ALL that should matter right now. My SINCERE condolences to the family and friends involved.
FLY SAFE ALL!

co-joe · Post by **co-joe** » Mon May 10, 2004 3:28 pm

Beach Piper eh? Can't these guys at least call a pilot for a story reference?

My condolences to the YBW community and the pilots friends and family. He was a good man. Cj

xenon · Post by **xenon** » Wed May 12, 2004 8:23 pm

Did any of you guys or girls know the pilot and the extent of the injuries?

Owner/Operator · Post by **Owner/Operator** » Fri May 14, 2004 12:11 am

My name is Ryan Hamilton. I am a very good friend and business partner of Mitch Ford. Mitch is the pilot that passed away in the plane accident last Satruday. Mitch is a Great man, a Great friend and a Great Pilot. His life will be remembered much longer than most of ours.

Blastor I am shocked at your comment, I beg you to retract your statement and apologize.

Thank You
Ryan Hamilton
Springbank Aero Services Inc.
403-247-8833
ryan@springbankaero.com

PS. Blastor, I have been given your IP address. Please retract your statement.

hz2p · Post by **hz2p** » Fri May 14, 2004 6:21 am

Ryan: I'm sorry you lost your friend Mitch.

However, transferring your anger to Blastor and threatening him will not bring Mitch back.

I'm not sure exactly what Blastor meant by "no surprise", but I think most people would agree that:

1) a 4 cylinder cherokee is not the best mountain aircraft around, and

2) I would be reluctant to fly in the mountains with 30 knot winds in nearly any piston aircraft I can think of, but I am freely willing to admit that I may be lacking in courage compared to others here.

Shiny Side Up · Post by **Shiny Side Up** » Fri May 14, 2004 10:34 am

While Blastor might of lacked a little tact, If his comment was due to the weather he's absolutely right. My aircraft didn't turn a prop that day because the weather was so miserable winds at +30 Kts out of the west and low cloud to boot. To learn that someone had risked the Rocks that day in a small plane was suprising, the result of which was unsuprising. While Its never good to hear of the misfortune of one of our fellow aviators I'll paint a picture for you. - The aircraft in question was owned by the survivor of the crash who was apparently from Ontario and wanting to get a mountain check before leaving for back east - Time was apparently a factor. Go back to your PDM classes people. If you really want to honor Mr. Ford's memory, don't make the same mistake.

Cat Driver says it best: Some times you just have to say no.

hz2p · Post by **hz2p** » Fri May 14, 2004 11:37 am

P.S. My IP address is 127.0.0.1/8.

Ground Loop · Post by **Ground Loop** » Fri May 14, 2004 1:36 pm

IP adress, schmIP adress, Owner operater has told us who he is and where he works! If he threatens you over this silly internet thing you just go to his house!

Anyone ever seen Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back?

FL410 · Post by **FL410** » Fri May 14, 2004 2:16 pm

hz2p wrote:P.S. My IP address is 127.0.0.1/8.

xenon · Post by **xenon** » Fri May 14, 2004 4:12 pm

Guys and Girls,
I think we are going slightly off topic here. Regardless of their reasons for flying in the mountains can we please maintain some respect for the pilot and his family.

Post by **avcanada** » Fri May 14, 2004 6:41 pm

I have not released anyones IP info.

My condolenses to the family and friends.

shitdisturber · Post by **shitdisturber** » Sat May 15, 2004 12:07 am

avcanada wrote:I have not released anyones IP info.

So you're implying O/O lied about that to force an apology? Gee that's hardly tacky at all!

YYZ · Post by **YYZ** » Fri May 21, 2004 6:08 am

cpt sweet'njuicy, I'm shocked and appalled by your lack of tact on this entire situation!

While I agree with you in principle that anger should not be directed at anyone I do believe there are ways to address this concern and your way is not one of them!

This is the first time I have been on this site & I am not from Canada so you could state the Canadians react differently and speak there mind etc, however I have close family who live in Canada and I travel there several times a year so I know in general the Canadian people are a nice bunch but people looking at this site who do not know any different would get a very bad impression of the people in Canada, it only takes one bad apple as the saying goes.

Not everyone in the world is articulate, I know as im one of them, but everyone knows there are limits that can be crossed and I would say you did that. I feel sorry for you if you cannot see you have over reacted and are at fault!

My condolences also go out to the family and friends of Mr Mitch Ford...

YYZ

chief · Post by **chief** » Fri May 21, 2004 6:42 am

Just for your info, IP addresses dont mean crap or else there would be lots of people gettting sued for having music on their HDD's. It is illegal for the ISP to give anyone without a court order the name of someone to which an IP address belongs.

just curious · Post by **just curious** » Fri May 21, 2004 11:53 am

cpt sweet'njuicy wrote:I hope this isnt another overreaction.....

No SNJ, it's the normal reaction most people have to your posts.

You aren't quite a troll. More tactless than anything else. Somebody dies, and you just can't help beaking off on an unrelated side issue. As if possession of your IP would enable the guy to ruin your life.

You mentioned in one of your earlier posts that your attitude had gotten you into trouble. I suppose that was at work, although, (thankfully, you don't work for us) I may never know that.

I do know that if your attitude is as bad in a two-crew cockpit as it is on a multi-person board, you FO's must earn every nickle they get flying with you. Sadly, until your dying day, you just won't get it.. .

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Fri May 21, 2004 12:49 pm

Capt. S&J :

The reason people post their condolences is because we care and suffer a degree of grief over the loss of life in any aircraft accident.

Assesing blame for accidents has zero connection with the grief felt by " normal " human beings.

Cat

JL · Post by JL » Fri May 21, 2004 12:58 pm

Capt S&J

Transport Canada does not investigate accidents for cause, only the Transportation Safety Board does.

smartass · Post by **smartass** » Sat May 22, 2004 7:48 am

This forum makes me sick!!

A fellow pilot just died. period. If he made a wrong descision he has been punished for it. For you a**holes to slag him after he has passed on is disgraceful and disgusting. I am ashamed to even read this. I have lost close personal friends, some of whom made bad descisions, some who had mechanics make bad descisions, and some who just had some shitty luck. Maybe he did have it coming but whatever the circumstances the pilot is now dead. Lets show some respect for those reading this that knew him personally. As for his family and friends, I know what you are going through and I pray that you may someday be able to look beyond this. Aviation is a beautiful thing and hopefully you can learn to see that again someday as I have.

flyinthebug · Post by **flyinthebug** » Sat May 22, 2004 9:26 am

Well said smartass. As for you Capt Sweet & Goofy.... this is NOT the place or thread for my response to you, that will come in time. But, for the record, i`ll sign and send my condolences to the family and friends of a lost pilot brother or sister, anywhere I wish, whether they read this forum or not. Its called RESPECT, and you sir, are a "man"? (term used loosely) with little if any, class!
Again, I offer my deepest condolences to the family and friends of this pilot. Fly SAFE all! FTB

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