Provincial Airlines

mach_tuck · Post by **mach_tuck** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:23 am

oh yee of little faith.. Anyway regardless if you want to believe or not, there are direct entry captain positions at Canjet. Wether or not they cut the mustard and make it through the training and line indoc is yet to be seen. If they don't well then they don't get their $10000 signing bonus and they'll just end up in the right seat.

Just as a note to the experience of some of these people, they do have quite a bit of experience and not just beating around in the maritimes. Some do have a few years international flying and beating around the states as well.

We'll just have to see how the 737 treats them.

748 ho · Post by **748 ho** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:15 pm

NOW MEN!!!!!! Thats why I told them to go pound the sand shit ass managment and CHIMP LIKE PAY!!!!!!!!! Who can't be captian on the
37 easy as pie to fly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! come on the 748 you still had to fly it
not type your way out!!!!!!!!!!!! Like I am gonna sit there like a chimp
while some one takes my upgrade!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE better offer came and
I said seeeyahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thats aviation men gets some balls get out there and "KICK SOME MAJOR ASS MEN"

complexintentions · Post by **complexintentions** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:27 pm

Sweeet...

748ho, where ya been man?!

flynbutcher · Post by **flynbutcher** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:05 pm

wing nut · Post by **wing nut** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:45 pm

Hi guys and gals,
It's funny to hear all of you talk about all the experience you need to fly such a complicated rig, I guess it was hard for all of the guys that flew for EPA taking a left seat coming off a piston Beaver and Otter. The last I heard the B737 had 2 wings and a tail just like the rest of the aircraft. If it is a problem to land that fast a/c on 7000' maybe you should not be in the cockpit. Just by listening to eveybody talk it must be the most complex a/c there is. Just a final comment to ponder: are we still flying VOR to VOR or did you get one of those complex rigs called a GPS yet???????

WF9F · Post by **WF9F** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:55 pm

Amen, Wing Nut, Amen.

WF9F

WF9F · Post by **WF9F** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:02 pm

Hey Fish,
The guys from Air Atlantic had the same kind of time as theguys we are talking about and they all never had 10000+.I know alot of them

And what are the rumored plans you have heard of?Let us in on the scoop.

Cheers,

WF9F

po'dcjer · Post by **po'dcjer** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:18 pm

the $10, 000 sighing bonus is a joke.... the upgrade program is a joke...there is a lot of upgradable guys and gals....just lost a great one to wj...good luck DW....

B73B · Post by **B73B** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:41 pm

I agree.... we just lost a good one to WJ (with maybe more to follow?).

As for the GPS.... ohhh wishful thinking ( they're 500's not 800's)!

As for time, a dash guy has no prob going skipper, but when you have guys waiting with over 10,000 to 12,000 hours and previous jet experience..... come on boys, give me a break!!

We'll see just how things unfold shortly.

Cheers.

po'dcjer · Post by **po'dcjer** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:13 pm

alpa can't get here fast enough

flyin' fish · Post by **flyin' fish** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:22 pm

rumors?? there's plenty of those. We've been told Vegas was planned then scraped. YVR was scraped to make room for charters, couldn't keep that during winter due to lack of crews and aircraft. Other places have been talked about, but never happened due to lack of crews. Orders for more -300's have been cancelled because of .............. you guessed it, lack of crews.
The future of expansion with this company depends on how many pilots they can attract, but mostly how many they can retain.
Just heard another is gone to the Emirates.

po'dcjer · Post by **po'dcjer** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:25 pm

no way ...was it DP, if so good for him

flyin' fish · Post by **flyin' fish** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:29 pm

yes it is. Looks good on him, definitely deserves it.

po'dcjer · Post by **po'dcjer** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:38 pm

hey fly fishn' , i was just looking on the c6 website, and it shows yvr in july

flyin' fish · Post by **flyin' fish** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:39 pm

try bookin it. all the seats are sold out or not available last time I checked. maybe things changed already

55+ · Post by **55+** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:48 pm

I thought CJ was a nice little airline, my oldest runs back and forth between CYHZ - CYYT quite cheap at times and I head over that way occassionally as I like to direct my bucks towards a Maritime outfit(except Prov Air)

flyin' fish · Post by **flyin' fish** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:54 pm

It is a good airline. It's still young and corporate has alot to learn.
Let be known, CanJet is a great place to work because of the employees, but some things need to be improved. Ever since the schedule made leaps and bounds, I'm happy here.

disco · Post by **disco** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:26 pm

wing nut wrote:Hi guys and gals,
It's funny to hear all of you talk about all the experience you need to fly such a complicated rig, I guess it was hard for all of the guys that flew for EPA taking a left seat coming off a piston Beaver and Otter. The last I heard the B737 had 2 wings and a tail just like the rest of the aircraft. If it is a problem to land that fast a/c on 7000' maybe you should not be in the cockpit. Just by listening to eveybody talk it must be the most complex a/c there is. Just a final comment to ponder: are we still flying VOR to VOR or did you get one of those complex rigs called a GPS yet???????

wing nut...

NO ONE has said it is a complicated rig...have they? show me where. You are missing the point.

The point remains that there are people here that can easily fly this thing from the left seat and should be upgraded before anyone is brought in from some turboprop to scoop by them and make more money than the Level 1 Caps (due to the signing bonus)

WF9F · Post by **WF9F** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:59 pm

Exactly Disco, that is the point.
The decision on not upgrading must be coming from one of the M's upstairs, is it not?It is confusing why that is when CJ is looking to expand but by doing this they risk losing more pilots.Will living in YHZ be good enough for the pilots causing them to just take what is given to them?One step forward will equal 2 back.Or will it?I don't know.
When does the pilot group start negotiating as an ALPA group?

WF9F

wing nut · Post by **wing nut** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:28 am

Why are they not upgrading from inside??

po'dcjer · Post by **po'dcjer** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:06 am

you know, i just don't get it...management thinks if you can fly a dash 8 you can fly anything.....i fly with alot of the king-air and 1900 drivers, and they do a damn good job....they would have no problem switching to the left seat...it's to bad we are gonna lose so many good guys and gals, and management doesn't see it...

flynbutcher · Post by **flynbutcher** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:02 pm

The sad thing about it is that the company is creating a negative atmosphere there already between the new hire DEs and the current group. Its too bad because I am sure they are a good bunch of guys. I don't think I'd like to be starting in a new company with that kind of sh#t over my head right from the get go.

flyin' fish · Post by **flyin' fish** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:51 pm

the new hires shouldn't worry about any sh*t hanging over them.
The negative atmosphere was created between the line pilots and management. Everybody here won't take anything personal, especially towards those new hires on the way. DE's have been hired before and fit in with no problems. Like I said before, this is a great place to work because of the employees.
To the new guys coming from PAL, don't think the rest of guys and gals will look at you like some scab.

po'dcjer · Post by **po'dcjer** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:29 pm

here here fish

KenguGo · Post by **KenguGo** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:08 pm

Good topic! Very useful