I seen an Ad in the Globe and Mail today that they are hiring and have posted thier email.
pilotjobs@flyporter.com
The email is from memory so please CONFIRM before sending...and maybe post the correct one if i am wrong.
Good luck to all!!
I seen the post by deskgo after i posted .....
sorry guys
Porter is hiring at Toronto Island....
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jumperdumper
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Porter is hiring at Toronto Island....
When your life flashes before your eyes, will it be interesting?
no disrespect to the company, but if I recall from the job add, they are asking 5,000hr Capt and 3,000 FO with time on time or over certain amount of lbs, etc.
now if this was 6 months ago, I could say "as usual", but today with all the hirings, isnt this way over the head?
correct me if I am wrong....
now if this was 6 months ago, I could say "as usual", but today with all the hirings, isnt this way over the head?
correct me if I am wrong....
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They'll have no problems finding guys with 5000 hours. It's a realistic figure, and they should stick to it. 3000 for F/O's is also realistic. There are companies that do hire low time pilots...and their safety record reflects this practice. The real problem will be replacing the guys Porter, and the others like them do hire....NCA, etc.? The kind of work they do cant be done with a bunch of low time replacements....there are a lot of 2000-2500 hour guys out there with really inflated opinions of their skill level.
I think part of the problem is going to be attracting those pilots with 3000-5000Hrs. Its most likely that they are waiting for AC,JAZZ,WJ... etc to call. They might view joining Porter as a little risky considering all the "big Boys" are in Hiring mode.
Personally, I think Porter has a good shot of being a success.
Personally, I think Porter has a good shot of being a success.
Funny thing. I've worked for him twice. First time, he was pretty much in the background. I wasn't treated all that well, but it wasen't by him. I've always respected the guy. He's "razor" sharp! And his wife. She's a really bright lady.
The second time, I dont know if he knew I was there, or not. I stayed under the radar! But, I've always found him a pretty good guy. But, I would think he'll be far enough in the background that, you probably wont have any direct dealings with him. If he has who I think he may have running the show for him though, I'd watch my mirrors.
The second time, I dont know if he knew I was there, or not. I stayed under the radar! But, I've always found him a pretty good guy. But, I would think he'll be far enough in the background that, you probably wont have any direct dealings with him. If he has who I think he may have running the show for him though, I'd watch my mirrors.
Now comon Doc, you are telling me only 3,000hrs + will get you a qualified F/O on a Q400??
I know we beat this matter to death before, but guys in Europe and Asia are flying these birds out of the academy (of course with a qualifed Capt), so I wont by it man, sorry...
Bmi baby was hiring 500hr cadets for their training on q-400 & B737 and many, many operators did the same, and havent crashed because of lack of skill.
I respect one thing when you are a pilot up norht flying in some sh**y conditions with simple airplanes, in rough spots, but flying a state of the art Q-400 out of T.O. to places similar to it, should not be 'beware of' job post for a 2000hr F/O.
Like I said, if this was 6 months ago, fine, they can choose, but nowadays...you are kidding!
I know we beat this matter to death before, but guys in Europe and Asia are flying these birds out of the academy (of course with a qualifed Capt), so I wont by it man, sorry...
Bmi baby was hiring 500hr cadets for their training on q-400 & B737 and many, many operators did the same, and havent crashed because of lack of skill.
I respect one thing when you are a pilot up norht flying in some sh**y conditions with simple airplanes, in rough spots, but flying a state of the art Q-400 out of T.O. to places similar to it, should not be 'beware of' job post for a 2000hr F/O.
Like I said, if this was 6 months ago, fine, they can choose, but nowadays...you are kidding!
Doc, any of these names ring a bell for you??
Porter Airlines unveils senior management team
TORONTO, Feb. 28 /CNW/ - Robert J. Deluce, President and CEO of REGCO
Holdings Inc., is pleased to announce the senior management team for its
wholly-owned subsidiary, Porter Airlines Inc.
"On behalf of the REGCO Board of Directors, including Chairman Donald J.
Carty, I am proud to have a group with such wide-ranging experience working to
bring Porter to life," said Deluce. "They have the same passion for the
airline industry that I do, and Porter and its future passengers will benefit
from the contributions of this team."
James A. Morrison, Vice President and Chief Operating Officer - Will
oversee the airline's flight and ground operations, maintenance and
engineering teams. Morrison joins Porter from Execaire, a division of IMP
Group Ltd, where he was Vice President and General Manager. With over 20 years
experience as a Captain in the commercial aviation environment, his
operational background also includes senior positions with Skyservice FBO, Air
Creebec and Air Ontario.
D. Paul Moffat, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer - Moffat is a
Chartered Accountant who began his career at Price Waterhouse. He was a
partner in one of Canada's largest architectural firms, Bregman & Hamann, and
served as Vice President and CFO of Lac Minerals Ltd., The Citadel Insurance
and Canadian Niagara Power before joining Prudential of America Life Insurance
Company (Canada) in 1994 as its CFO and Chief Compliance Officer.
Michael Deluce, Executive Vice President - Corporate Strategy and
Contracts - Deluce has been instrumental in the strategic development of the
REGCO and Porter business plans. He holds an MBA from University of Western
Ontario's Ivey School of Business, and has previously worked with Scotia
Capital, Travel Unlimited and Newcourt Credit Group.
Richard Wells, Director of Flight Operations - Wells has a strong
background in corporate planning and aviation information systems. He has
previously held executive Flight Operations positions at Cargojet Airways,
Canada 3000 Airlines, Soundair Corporation and Bearskin Airlines.
Paul Larocque, Director of Information Technology - Larocque has over 30
years experience in IT in the area of operations, network management and
strategic planning. Previous technology positions include senior roles at
Jetsgo, Vivendi-Universal Networks and Joseph E. Seagram & Sons.
Richard Hill, Director of Maintenance and Engineering - Hill's
maintenance, engineering, quality and production background includes
leadership positions at Air Canada Jazz, Canada 3000 Airlines, Recon Air
Corporation, South African Express Airways, Skyservice and Austin Airways.
Debra L. Newman, Director of Human Resources and Community Relations -
Newman's extensive background in developing and directing HR departments comes
from leadership roles at Bombardier Aerospace, Canada 3000 Airlines and Air
Canada.
Andrew Pierce, Director of Sales and Marketing - Pierce joins Porter from
Bombardier Aerospace, where he worked in new program development, airline
analysis, sales and marketing. He also has an aerospace engineering and flight
simulation background.
Piyush Gandhi, Chief Pilot - Gandhi was recently the Chief Pilot and
Customer Liaison Pilot at Bombardier Aerospace, where he was qualified as a
Captain on the QSeries regional turboprops and Global Express corporate jet.
He has also held pilot positions at FlightSafety Canada and Leitch Technology
Limited.
Ralph Gilpin-Payne, Manager of System Operations Control (SOC) Centre -
Gilpin-Payne's strong experience in flight and systems operations comes from
senior roles with Cargojet Airways, Skyservice Airlines and Canada 3000
Airlines.
Janet Stewart, Manager of In-Flight Services - Stewart's extensive
background in aviation safety inspection and training has been formed by her
experience at Transport Canada, Cargojet Airways, Skyservice Airlines and
Canada 3000 Airlines.
Justin P. Tiplady, Manager of Standards and Training - Tiplady was
previously employed at Bombardier Aerospace as its Chief Pilot for Standards
and Training and is a Captain on the QSeries and Global Express. His
background also includes V2 Aero Training and training in the Canadian Armed
Forces.
Jeffrey S. Brown, Manager of Corporate Development - Brown has a business
administration and private equity background, and joins the organization from
EdgeStone Capital Partners. Previously he was employed in investment banking
at Lehman Brothers.
Jason Deluce, Manager of IT Development and Support - Deluce has a
diploma in Computer Systems Technology, and was previously employed at StarTek
Services supporting Nikon Digital USA. He also has a commercial pilot's
license.
Porter Airlines unveils senior management team
TORONTO, Feb. 28 /CNW/ - Robert J. Deluce, President and CEO of REGCO
Holdings Inc., is pleased to announce the senior management team for its
wholly-owned subsidiary, Porter Airlines Inc.
"On behalf of the REGCO Board of Directors, including Chairman Donald J.
Carty, I am proud to have a group with such wide-ranging experience working to
bring Porter to life," said Deluce. "They have the same passion for the
airline industry that I do, and Porter and its future passengers will benefit
from the contributions of this team."
James A. Morrison, Vice President and Chief Operating Officer - Will
oversee the airline's flight and ground operations, maintenance and
engineering teams. Morrison joins Porter from Execaire, a division of IMP
Group Ltd, where he was Vice President and General Manager. With over 20 years
experience as a Captain in the commercial aviation environment, his
operational background also includes senior positions with Skyservice FBO, Air
Creebec and Air Ontario.
D. Paul Moffat, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer - Moffat is a
Chartered Accountant who began his career at Price Waterhouse. He was a
partner in one of Canada's largest architectural firms, Bregman & Hamann, and
served as Vice President and CFO of Lac Minerals Ltd., The Citadel Insurance
and Canadian Niagara Power before joining Prudential of America Life Insurance
Company (Canada) in 1994 as its CFO and Chief Compliance Officer.
Michael Deluce, Executive Vice President - Corporate Strategy and
Contracts - Deluce has been instrumental in the strategic development of the
REGCO and Porter business plans. He holds an MBA from University of Western
Ontario's Ivey School of Business, and has previously worked with Scotia
Capital, Travel Unlimited and Newcourt Credit Group.
Richard Wells, Director of Flight Operations - Wells has a strong
background in corporate planning and aviation information systems. He has
previously held executive Flight Operations positions at Cargojet Airways,
Canada 3000 Airlines, Soundair Corporation and Bearskin Airlines.
Paul Larocque, Director of Information Technology - Larocque has over 30
years experience in IT in the area of operations, network management and
strategic planning. Previous technology positions include senior roles at
Jetsgo, Vivendi-Universal Networks and Joseph E. Seagram & Sons.
Richard Hill, Director of Maintenance and Engineering - Hill's
maintenance, engineering, quality and production background includes
leadership positions at Air Canada Jazz, Canada 3000 Airlines, Recon Air
Corporation, South African Express Airways, Skyservice and Austin Airways.
Debra L. Newman, Director of Human Resources and Community Relations -
Newman's extensive background in developing and directing HR departments comes
from leadership roles at Bombardier Aerospace, Canada 3000 Airlines and Air
Canada.
Andrew Pierce, Director of Sales and Marketing - Pierce joins Porter from
Bombardier Aerospace, where he worked in new program development, airline
analysis, sales and marketing. He also has an aerospace engineering and flight
simulation background.
Piyush Gandhi, Chief Pilot - Gandhi was recently the Chief Pilot and
Customer Liaison Pilot at Bombardier Aerospace, where he was qualified as a
Captain on the QSeries regional turboprops and Global Express corporate jet.
He has also held pilot positions at FlightSafety Canada and Leitch Technology
Limited.
Ralph Gilpin-Payne, Manager of System Operations Control (SOC) Centre -
Gilpin-Payne's strong experience in flight and systems operations comes from
senior roles with Cargojet Airways, Skyservice Airlines and Canada 3000
Airlines.
Janet Stewart, Manager of In-Flight Services - Stewart's extensive
background in aviation safety inspection and training has been formed by her
experience at Transport Canada, Cargojet Airways, Skyservice Airlines and
Canada 3000 Airlines.
Justin P. Tiplady, Manager of Standards and Training - Tiplady was
previously employed at Bombardier Aerospace as its Chief Pilot for Standards
and Training and is a Captain on the QSeries and Global Express. His
background also includes V2 Aero Training and training in the Canadian Armed
Forces.
Jeffrey S. Brown, Manager of Corporate Development - Brown has a business
administration and private equity background, and joins the organization from
EdgeStone Capital Partners. Previously he was employed in investment banking
at Lehman Brothers.
Jason Deluce, Manager of IT Development and Support - Deluce has a
diploma in Computer Systems Technology, and was previously employed at StarTek
Services supporting Nikon Digital USA. He also has a commercial pilot's
license.
Mig:
You are correct in saying that a variety of airlines overseas hire cadet pilots with virtually no time and put them into the right seat. However, in many cases these very same pilots are not always trained in the same manner either. These cadets have been trained differently in that they were eventually "groomed" to fly these aircraft and I might add, that even then, they are still short on experience.
To be honest, I doubt that Porter will have any difficulty in obtaining qualified pilots, one need only look at the list of names in management to see they are already off to a good start. If the money is there, then it will be even easier to find the qualified pilots they are looking for.
You are correct in saying that a variety of airlines overseas hire cadet pilots with virtually no time and put them into the right seat. However, in many cases these very same pilots are not always trained in the same manner either. These cadets have been trained differently in that they were eventually "groomed" to fly these aircraft and I might add, that even then, they are still short on experience.
To be honest, I doubt that Porter will have any difficulty in obtaining qualified pilots, one need only look at the list of names in management to see they are already off to a good start. If the money is there, then it will be even easier to find the qualified pilots they are looking for.
prop2jet
there is some truth in your statement as well, my point was only the fact that they are asking for high times, when across the country AC, Jazz, WJ and others are taking people with 2000-2500hr.
But, then again, I am sure there will be plenty of us here with surplus of hours hoping to upgrade to a better future:)
there is some truth in your statement as well, my point was only the fact that they are asking for high times, when across the country AC, Jazz, WJ and others are taking people with 2000-2500hr.
But, then again, I am sure there will be plenty of us here with surplus of hours hoping to upgrade to a better future:)
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The likley reason for a higher time requirement at Porter probably has more to do with eventually upgrading FO's to Capt. Obviously they are higher for the Capt's. The main carriers have lower time requirements because you won't be moving out of the right seat any time soon. In the early days of WJ, I believe it was a 5K hr requirment as FO's were being uprgraded within a couple of years or less.
