how many people have said thanks.....

PT6-114A · Post by **PT6-114A** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:39 pm

just wanted to know how many people have interviewed at Jazz and got the sim and said no thankyou??

DLB · Post by **DLB** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:03 pm

DLB · Post by **DLB** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:03 pm

Me. I couldnt take the pay cut even though the job is good.

superpilot · Post by **superpilot** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:10 pm

55+ · Post by **55+** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:38 pm

PT6-114A wrote:just wanted to know how many people have interviewed at Jazz and got the sim and said no thankyou??

Me also - back in 1988

gr8gazu · Post by **gr8gazu** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:03 pm

Well, sort of....

The guy who gave the toast to the bride at my wedding was the Minister of Transport at the time. As a wedding gift, he offered me an interview at AC (crown corp days). I politely declined.

neophyte · Post by **neophyte** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:39 pm

I did. And even though things didn't go as planned I don't regret it.

Now I just have to figure out what to do next.

Dash7nomad · Post by **Dash7nomad** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:22 pm

Interesting...

2low · Post by **2low** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:47 am

Sorry to hear about the letter. I guess in hindsight the job at Jazz would have been the better choice. At least you are guaranteed an interview at Mainline, and if it doesn't work out.....you still have Jazz. Something for all you kiddies to think about eh. ( the ones without AC daddys)

neophyte · Post by **neophyte** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:17 am

Flaps,

Thanks for your consolement.

Let me say again, I DO NOT regret turning down Jazz. I wanted to work for mainline, not jazz. I will be fine where I am, or like others have said, I will find another dream job. AC would have been great though.

And if you are suggesting my father works at AC, you are dead wrong! My father isn't even a pilot. I am the first one in my family crazy enough to undertake such a profession. I got to where I am today by hard work, networking and a bit of luck.

My suggestion for the kiddies: Never settle, always chase your dreams!

N

2low · Post by **2low** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:32 am

No Neo...not your dad. Just in general.

abc xyz · Post by **abc xyz** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:07 am

Buddy i think that card of daddys kid has been played out enough already. Just like any biz nepotism does have some role but all the boys and girls hired have been more than qualified AC kids or not.

Hell at the railway 4 out of 12 had family in my class. Others had good friends already working.

If i was on a hiring board I think i too would look at a known commodity vs somebody i have never met - but then again i use common sense.

Signed

an AC pilots kid

Jeremy Kent · Post by **Jeremy Kent** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:16 am

What sort of operation are you at now, Neo, out of curiosity?

My plan if AC didn't work out was Europe. From what I've heard, though, it would have been a frustrating, expensive and taxing process... but it seemed like a good plan B. My only tie, however, is a mother born in a country with rather patriarchal citizenship laws. Anyone had any luck breaching the EU without solid citizenship?

Anyway, you're handling the disappointment with grace, Neo... good on ya!!

neophyte · Post by **neophyte** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:33 am

JK

Please check your PMs.

Thank you for your kind words,

Neo

wallypilot · Post by **wallypilot** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:04 pm

I'm just wondering....if you end up saying no because of the pay;

why did you even apply in the first place? Okay, maybe back in the 80's, as information didn't flow as much as now....but currently, Jazz payscales are very well published, and unless you are a newbie, or very low experience, everyone knows the pay at jazz for the first few years sucks until upgrade to the left seat .

Bede · Post by **Bede** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:41 pm

Wally,

I think the problem for someguys is the fact that the FO pay is low, and the upgrade time is so long. At least at mainline, FO's make decent money. I'm not complaining though, still a great job.

Localizer · Post by **Localizer** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:39 pm

Different strokes for different folks! .. Why does there have to be a reason for everything?! .. If they applied and changed there mind .. so be it?! .. Why are you questioning these people?! .. Doesn't it leave a potential spot for you?! .. Just respect peoples decisions .. (all of that in brief!)

2 cents ..

Loc

PT6-114A · Post by **PT6-114A** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:22 pm

Sorry guys I did not mean to start anything. I just called them to thank them for there time and was feeling bad that they spent there time on me and just wanted to know if anyone had done the same. Man people will just jump on you for anything around here.

bohica · Post by **bohica** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:06 am

One of 3 things, WJ called, AC called, or WW grabbed you by the short and curlies and gave you a few more bucks. Am I at least close?

Mind you it is warming up there.

twinpratts · Post by **twinpratts** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:31 am

Something to remember... Jazz=guarenteed interview with Mainline

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Flightlevels · Post by **Flightlevels** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:45 am

Twinn I really don't know if that would be the best way to go about a mainline interview. My thought is if you have the good qualifications that scores you high for mainline...then don't go to jazz to get there now(at one time it was a good way no question). You have to think that even with the amount of retirees coming...roughly 100/yr then with the amount of growth going to peak next year for AC. then combined with off the street pilots that will be hired and those that have yet to be hired and interviewed from Jazz(roughly around the 99/early 2000 seniority date) ...that's alot of pilots to go first ahead of a new hire at Jazz even with a 50% ratio jazz vs off the street....I would say it is a safe bet that if you are not in mainline within the next 1 - 2 yrs from jazz it will be a long time coming. Then what you have to ask yourself is...do I stay and be happy here or will mainline always be in the back of your mind or what are other things to consider...age/money etc...

WJ700 · Post by **WJ700** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:27 pm

I would say Jazz is a liabilty. An assumption from me but from all of my firends there it seems only about 30% of thos interviewed are actually getting
hired. Yet if you're CMA/GGN/ ect.... once you have the interview, you're much more likely to get hired.
It may be economics, it may be someone with a beef towards Jazz... but it's pretty wierd from the amount I know who've received the letter as of late.

Sage · Post by **Sage** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:23 pm

The interviewees coming from Jazz all have real good seniority and the word is that they are exuding a certain attitude that makes it hard to believe that they will be comfortable with the huge pay cut and bottom of the list seniority. That is why they are being given the PFO letters. A lot have been turning down AC as well because of the promises of Cpt upgrades. Jazz new hires will have no problems with that salary and low seniority. Why would mainline hire CMA and GGN pilots when all their time is on an oversized King Air? They have a good supply of pilots with airline jet time at Jazz. ACJ DFO apparently was told by AC DFO to get ready for a mass exodus of pilots from Jazz to mainline. All of that makes working at Jazz NOT a liability.

monkeyspankmasterflex · Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:43 pm

Anyone know what percentage of mainline new hires are coming from Jazz so far?

Four1oh · Post by **Four1oh** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:16 pm

I said 'no thanks' by not sending them a resume.

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