So you're saying that because someone didn't go and get a magical piece of paper they're uneducated? Nice job of proving Mostly's point about arrogance! Bravo! violent flamesmartass wrote:[
Wow do you ever know how to flog a dead horse. If this is the basis of your argument why don't you listen to what everyone is telling you and admit that you're a dumbass. Seems to me that the uneducated are just as defensive as the educated regarding their stupidity... you're living proof. Now shut the hell up already!!!!
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Wow. Quite the thread. I for one will never determine a person's intelligence based on their level of education. Education can get you further ahead and open certain doors. That also depends on specific studies.
One thing that I have noticed about some people with post secondary, (not all) is HOW they earned it. I personally believe there is value in earning and learning. That is to say, how was it paid for? For me, half the struggle/education was earning my way while going to school. A little humility goes a long way. And I've always loved the expression/axiom; "the more I learn, the more I realize what I don't know."
I will always respect the fact someone has dedicated time and effort to attain post secondary. However, I will not assume a lack of wisdom in the absense of one.
One thing that I have noticed about some people with post secondary, (not all) is HOW they earned it. I personally believe there is value in earning and learning. That is to say, how was it paid for? For me, half the struggle/education was earning my way while going to school. A little humility goes a long way. And I've always loved the expression/axiom; "the more I learn, the more I realize what I don't know."
I will always respect the fact someone has dedicated time and effort to attain post secondary. However, I will not assume a lack of wisdom in the absense of one.
I might surmise that there are two groups of people here:
#1) those with post-secondary education, and
#2) those without post-secondary education.
To those in group #1 (ie possessing at least a Bachelor's degree, and perhaps post-graduate degrees as well): You've wasted enough time at school, you need to get on with your life and stop wasting time here discussing something which isn't relevant to you anyways. It's not like you can go back in time and not get your degree.
To those in group #2 (ie potentially but not necessarily high school diploma holders): if you had put half the effort into your scholastic pursuits that you have put into this completely useless and interminable discussion, you would have had your Phd by now.
#1) those with post-secondary education, and
#2) those without post-secondary education.
To those in group #1 (ie possessing at least a Bachelor's degree, and perhaps post-graduate degrees as well): You've wasted enough time at school, you need to get on with your life and stop wasting time here discussing something which isn't relevant to you anyways. It's not like you can go back in time and not get your degree.
To those in group #2 (ie potentially but not necessarily high school diploma holders): if you had put half the effort into your scholastic pursuits that you have put into this completely useless and interminable discussion, you would have had your Phd by now.
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The best part about this thread is just when you think no-one could say anything that made less sense, someone like shit comes up with something that totally blows every comment out of the water. Do you fight with the tax auditors when they tell you that you can't claim education because you weren't going to University/College. I would have thought that even you would understand the meaning of education... I know I'm stretching it but I did have that amount of confidence in you... not anymore.shitdisturber wrote:So you're saying that because someone didn't go and get a magical piece of paper they're uneducated? Nice job of proving Mostly's point about arrogance! Bravo! violent flamesmartass wrote:[
Wow do you ever know how to flog a dead horse. If this is the basis of your argument why don't you listen to what everyone is telling you and admit that you're a dumbass. Seems to me that the uneducated are just as defensive as the educated regarding their stupidity... you're living proof. Now shut the hell up already!!!!
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hz2p wrote:I might surmise that there are two groups of people here:
#1) those with post-secondary education, and
#2) those without post-secondary education.
To those in group #1 (ie possessing at least a Bachelor's degree, and perhaps post-graduate degrees as well): You've wasted enough time at school, you need to get on with your life and stop wasting time here discussing something which isn't relevant to you anyways. It's not like you can go back in time and not get your degree.
To those in group #2 (ie potentially but not necessarily high school diploma holders): if you had put half the effort into your scholastic pursuits that you have put into this completely useless and interminable discussion, you would have had your Phd by now.
best post on here.....I commend you
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Education comes in many forms, been there, done most of them. You are apparently one of the few who fails to recognize the fact that getting an education through other means doesn't make it of any less value. But don't worry, having read your comments on this thread; I haven't lost faith in you. After all, you can't lose what you never had!smartass wrote:The best part about this thread is just when you think no-one could say anything that made less sense, someone like shit comes up with something that totally blows every comment out of the water. Do you fight with the tax auditors when they tell you that you can't claim education because you weren't going to University/College. I would have thought that even you would understand the meaning of education... I know I'm stretching it but I did have that amount of confidence in you... not anymore.shitdisturber wrote:So you're saying that because someone didn't go and get a magical piece of paper they're uneducated? Nice job of proving Mostly's point about arrogance! Bravo! violent flamesmartass wrote:[
Wow do you ever know how to flog a dead horse. If this is the basis of your argument why don't you listen to what everyone is telling you and admit that you're a dumbass. Seems to me that the uneducated are just as defensive as the educated regarding their stupidity... you're living proof. Now shut the hell up already!!!!
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I've been to several third world countries and have seen the health epidemics, and trust me, you wouldn't be saying that if you had seen their so called "health care" in action. Forget about education - you were just born ignorant, naive and stupid. Sorry for being so rude, but those kind of comments are totally untrue and completely uncalled for.
Maybe you wouldn't be so quick to mouth off if you were sitting next to someone in a third world country who was slowly and painfully dying of a simple infection that one dose of antibiotics or a simple procedure could have cured. Does this country have some problems - yes, but they are trivial compared to the problems faced by less fortunate nations, and it pisses me off when residents of First World nations take what they have for granted.
I feel ashamed that you are a fellow Canadian and I'm quite sure that most people on this site would agree with me based on your comments.
Oh and by the way I found the study that the CBC article referred to. Roughly 70,000 patients out of 2.5 million (40% of the 185,000 cases are preventable) patients suffer an acute event in Canada. That correlates to roughly a 2.8% preventable medical error rate, which is one of the lowest rates of medical errors among health care systems of first world nations. They don't keep stats for third world nations but I wouldn't be surprised to see their medical error rate up in the 50% range...but you must be right, our health care workers are just lucky - it has nothing to do with their "edumacation".
After that cyyz, you shouldn't even be allowed to live in this country. Saying that our health care system is at third world standards is mildly offensive to Canadians and an outright insult (and in my mind discriminatory) to third world residents who would die (and in fact do die each and every day) trying to get into this country to access our "third world standards" health care system.Maybe if our brilliant health care system wasn't sh8t I wouldn't have posted my message. But our health care system is at third world standards and brilliant Paul and McGuinty have or plan to dump more money into it.
I've been to several third world countries and have seen the health epidemics, and trust me, you wouldn't be saying that if you had seen their so called "health care" in action. Forget about education - you were just born ignorant, naive and stupid. Sorry for being so rude, but those kind of comments are totally untrue and completely uncalled for.
Maybe you wouldn't be so quick to mouth off if you were sitting next to someone in a third world country who was slowly and painfully dying of a simple infection that one dose of antibiotics or a simple procedure could have cured. Does this country have some problems - yes, but they are trivial compared to the problems faced by less fortunate nations, and it pisses me off when residents of First World nations take what they have for granted.
I feel ashamed that you are a fellow Canadian and I'm quite sure that most people on this site would agree with me based on your comments.
Oh and by the way I found the study that the CBC article referred to. Roughly 70,000 patients out of 2.5 million (40% of the 185,000 cases are preventable) patients suffer an acute event in Canada. That correlates to roughly a 2.8% preventable medical error rate, which is one of the lowest rates of medical errors among health care systems of first world nations. They don't keep stats for third world nations but I wouldn't be surprised to see their medical error rate up in the 50% range...but you must be right, our health care workers are just lucky - it has nothing to do with their "edumacation".
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And I would like to point out that we are heading into the same morass as the rest of the third world countries due to Canadians being such sheep, maybe educated, but sheep nevertheless.
I in all likeleyhood have been to more countries than most on this forum and I find that the corruption in our government is every bit as pervasive in our system as the most corrupt of the third world.
The only difference is third world citizens accept it through fear, Canadians accept it because they are bought with their own money that was extorted out of them by crooked polititions and government officials working hand in hand with each other.
So education is like mind control, it all depends on who is educating you and why.
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I in all likeleyhood have been to more countries than most on this forum and I find that the corruption in our government is every bit as pervasive in our system as the most corrupt of the third world.
The only difference is third world citizens accept it through fear, Canadians accept it because they are bought with their own money that was extorted out of them by crooked polititions and government officials working hand in hand with each other.
So education is like mind control, it all depends on who is educating you and why.
Cat
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
Sure an education can be mind control cat. However a good education teaches you to think. And think for yourself. Something i think is not natural for most people.
If you are able to think then you can benefit from any education, regardless of the motives of the educators.
If you are able to think then you can benefit from any education, regardless of the motives of the educators.
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Abramin :
I was not suggesting that one does not need an education, far from it.
Life itself is an education......formal education should give you the basics to go on and learn.
I guess what triggered my comments was the self righeous attitude of 2bornnot2b suggesting that someone with a different way of thinking should not be allowed to live in Canada. Then going on about third world countries..........judging from his post he appears to be a self righeous elitist and I despise that type.
But hey, maybe I just read him wrong, in which case I retract my opinion of him.
Cat
I was not suggesting that one does not need an education, far from it.
Life itself is an education......formal education should give you the basics to go on and learn.
I guess what triggered my comments was the self righeous attitude of 2bornnot2b suggesting that someone with a different way of thinking should not be allowed to live in Canada. Then going on about third world countries..........judging from his post he appears to be a self righeous elitist and I despise that type.
But hey, maybe I just read him wrong, in which case I retract my opinion of him.
Cat
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
Our whole education system in this country is set up to conform people to the ideal corporate world. Specifiacally high school gets you on the path early. 8:00 arrive at work/school 2 hours later coffee break/home Room. back to the same shit then lunch then back to the routine then home time and you all drive home in you civic to your 2.3 kids and wife.
The one thing that bugs me is that they dont teach you to think for yourselves the prof's never ask your opionion on the subject you write a paper on lets say WW1 you sumeries the events they never ask do YOU think all that killing and war was worth it. I once had a prof ask us to write a paper on our opinion about something so I wrote a paper of wich no matter what i wrote as long as you prove your theory should be correct . I got a C- next assignment same thing so I just wrote down exactly his opinions he expressed in class and got an A. that teaches nothing but brown noseing gets you ahead in this world. CD is right about the sheep thing.
Wich brings me back to aviation, there are far to many geeks in this industry who are to willing to kiss to much CP/Owner ass. As a result the owners abuse these pilots who will take it up the hoop just to get a few lines in there log book. Why should they pay you a decent wage when some other peon will do they same work and mow his lawn paint his house ect for half the price or free. Theirs one thing to be said about working hard and doing a good job but give me a break. Education is great but the individual who thinks for himself and learn's all they can by going out there and seeing the world will be far more "rounded" person than any peice of paper in there back pocket tries to say.
The one thing that bugs me is that they dont teach you to think for yourselves the prof's never ask your opionion on the subject you write a paper on lets say WW1 you sumeries the events they never ask do YOU think all that killing and war was worth it. I once had a prof ask us to write a paper on our opinion about something so I wrote a paper of wich no matter what i wrote as long as you prove your theory should be correct . I got a C- next assignment same thing so I just wrote down exactly his opinions he expressed in class and got an A. that teaches nothing but brown noseing gets you ahead in this world. CD is right about the sheep thing.
Wich brings me back to aviation, there are far to many geeks in this industry who are to willing to kiss to much CP/Owner ass. As a result the owners abuse these pilots who will take it up the hoop just to get a few lines in there log book. Why should they pay you a decent wage when some other peon will do they same work and mow his lawn paint his house ect for half the price or free. Theirs one thing to be said about working hard and doing a good job but give me a break. Education is great but the individual who thinks for himself and learn's all they can by going out there and seeing the world will be far more "rounded" person than any peice of paper in there back pocket tries to say.
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Yup, Murts you are bang on.
If education was the only true indicator of a persons ability to succeed how come I have managed to work my way through the aviation game and have flown most everything from the biplanes to Airbus and never, never never never had to pay for the training out of my own pocket........and that includes my helicopter training....I was paid a salary to take the training.
I have grade eight as my highest formal education.
Having made that comment, " School " education is benificial and for most jobs it is manditory.
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If education was the only true indicator of a persons ability to succeed how come I have managed to work my way through the aviation game and have flown most everything from the biplanes to Airbus and never, never never never had to pay for the training out of my own pocket........and that includes my helicopter training....I was paid a salary to take the training.
I have grade eight as my highest formal education.
Having made that comment, " School " education is benificial and for most jobs it is manditory.
Cat
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
I guess the idea behind an advanced education is to make yourself more marketable in todays workforce. Things have changed since some of you guys were young men. The business of running any company requires an educated group of men and women who can think beyond the mundane day to day rigors of doing business. Todays competitive market needs self motivated idealists who can do more than, for example, fly the plane. Just like the aircraft mechanic that keeps them flying with his education and tools the pilot needs tools too. What happens to the pilot working in the north who hurts his back unloading cargo at some remote camp or community if all he/she knows is flying the plane.
For example, I have a brother in law that put himself through University as a dining room chef. He now has a business that he does very well at setting up and restructuring Hotels that have either just opened our is in receivership. He started out as a Chartered Accountant working for someone else and through a sound education has branched out to running his own successful business using both life skills and education.
No offence to any of you older fellows (As I qualify in that catagory), the days of getting through life with a grade eight education are long gone.
For example, I have a brother in law that put himself through University as a dining room chef. He now has a business that he does very well at setting up and restructuring Hotels that have either just opened our is in receivership. He started out as a Chartered Accountant working for someone else and through a sound education has branched out to running his own successful business using both life skills and education.
No offence to any of you older fellows (As I qualify in that catagory), the days of getting through life with a grade eight education are long gone.
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There is no doubt that in todays world I would have a very tough time getting to where I am today.
Any young person who does not avail themself of as much education as they can get is reducing their chances at sucess...period.
However is it not signifigant thet when peole like me started the airplanes were far more difficult to fly and the navigation skills were far more difficult to master.
Yet some of us did manage to advance and make a career of it.
As an example of marketability and management of ones worth, I just today finalized another agreement to train pilots for type ratings in Holland, the key was receiving approval from the Dutch CAA to fly a Dutch registered aircraft training Dutch pilots, including a CAA inspector on my Canadian licenses.
It helped to have documents from other countries to sort of grease the wheels.
By the way I market myself at the rate of 250 Euros per flying hour plus all expenses, including a rental car.
Hey thats not too shabby for a borderline loser.
Now if only I could convince those co.ks.ckers at TC that I am qualified to be the PRM for my own Cessna 150 operation I could use that as further references as to my worth.
Do any of you guys think that I shall learn to live with the shame of not having the " Right stuff " as far as TC is concerned?
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Any young person who does not avail themself of as much education as they can get is reducing their chances at sucess...period.
However is it not signifigant thet when peole like me started the airplanes were far more difficult to fly and the navigation skills were far more difficult to master.
Yet some of us did manage to advance and make a career of it.
As an example of marketability and management of ones worth, I just today finalized another agreement to train pilots for type ratings in Holland, the key was receiving approval from the Dutch CAA to fly a Dutch registered aircraft training Dutch pilots, including a CAA inspector on my Canadian licenses.
It helped to have documents from other countries to sort of grease the wheels.
By the way I market myself at the rate of 250 Euros per flying hour plus all expenses, including a rental car.
Hey thats not too shabby for a borderline loser.
Now if only I could convince those co.ks.ckers at TC that I am qualified to be the PRM for my own Cessna 150 operation I could use that as further references as to my worth.
Do any of you guys think that I shall learn to live with the shame of not having the " Right stuff " as far as TC is concerned?
Cat
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
No doubt that you are doing okay Cat. You got in at a different time and your experience has opened many doors for you.
Today those doors are not easily opened because these new pilots are not considered a viable prospect without some kind of paper along with their resume. That paper will lead to them getting the job that will build your kind of experience. A catch 22.
With the numbers that the flight schools are turning out these days they need something in a resume that brings theirs to the top of the pile.
My other point that seems to have been ignored but needs to be considered is having something to fall back on should something happen to ones health or they find this career not doing it for them. Plan for a future beyond aviation.
I'm glad that I am not just starting out.
Today those doors are not easily opened because these new pilots are not considered a viable prospect without some kind of paper along with their resume. That paper will lead to them getting the job that will build your kind of experience. A catch 22.
With the numbers that the flight schools are turning out these days they need something in a resume that brings theirs to the top of the pile.
My other point that seems to have been ignored but needs to be considered is having something to fall back on should something happen to ones health or they find this career not doing it for them. Plan for a future beyond aviation.
I'm glad that I am not just starting out.
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Bandaid :
You are absoulely correct.
As long as I'm around and reasonably coherent I will do all I can to help the newbys.
And I also will keep flying until I can't find the airport, or the lake or whatever.
Cat
You are absoulely correct.
As long as I'm around and reasonably coherent I will do all I can to help the newbys.
And I also will keep flying until I can't find the airport, or the lake or whatever.
Cat
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
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Sorry, I just had to jump in with that, he wrote, she wrote, we wrote, he wrote crap....shitdisturber wrote:The best part about this thread is just when you think no-one could say anything that made less sense, someone like shit comes up with something that totally blows every comment out of the water. Do you fight with the tax auditors when they tell you that you can't claim education because you weren't going to University/College. I would have thought that even you would understand the meaning of education... I know I'm stretching it but I did have that amount of confidence in you... not anymore.smartass wrote:shitdisturber wrote: So you're saying that because someone didn't go and get a magical piece of paper they're uneducated? Nice job of proving Mostly's point about arrogance! Bravo! violent flame
Education does indeed come in all forms. Some of us didn't have the right circumstances to continue with formal education, some of us did... It means little in assessing intelligence, but it can mean everything in getting a job.
I have about as low a formal education as anyone here (I'd bet), but I'd do anything to change that history... Circumstance can change everything.
Been to Cuba, got sick, got to see the doctor in minutes, free of charge, free meds. Still living and breathing..2bornot2b wrote: discriminatory) to third world residents who would die (and in fact do die each and every day) trying to get into this country to access our "third world standards" health care system.
you wouldn't be saying that if you had seen their so called "health care" in action.
Saw a documentary on Peru, people selling organs for $100,000k, they get rich and person has their life saved.
Here, we just die, cause someone didn't sign his donor card(if you didn't sign off on it, I'm "mildly" offended by your rant)
I'm not a liberal, if I see a lame horse I wouldn't hesitate to euthanize.Maybe you wouldn't be so quick to mouth off if you were sitting next to someone in a third world country who was slowly and painfully dying of a simple infection that one dose of antibiotics or a simple procedure could have cured.
http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/TorontoSu ... 76389.htmlDoes this country have some problems - yes, but they are trivial compared to the problems faced by less fortunate nations, and it pisses me off when residents of First World nations take what they have for granted.
she blew a disc in her back a few weeks ago, even as a doctor she didn't bother tangling with the long waiting lists for scans at the public hospitals.
MASTERCARD WELCOME
Instead, for about $750, she got all the diagnostic scans she needed at a private clinic in Quebec. Appointments take two days.
She is now recovering from successful surgery that otherwise might have been delayed for months of waiting for free tests.
Umm, our own doctors don't even use the system. The rich get cured no matter what country they live in 1st or 3rd world and the fact you can't see that is astonishing.
It's a philosophy starting to catch on across the country......Oh, did we mention the largest operator of private health clinics in Canada is owned by Martin's family doctor?I feel ashamed that you are a fellow Canadian and I'm quite sure that most people on this site would agree with me based on your comments.
Yes, Canadians are all ashamed at my comments, I'm ashamed you're gonna vote for the Millionaire again.
Yes, but since everyone here likes statistics, since we now have more graduates we should have more break throughs. Where are our Florence Nightingales???That correlates to roughly a 2.8% preventable medical error rate, which is one of the lowest rates of medical errors among health care systems of first world nations.
But that isn't the case, we're letting more people through the gates but the standards have decreased a great deal to accommodate and we now have mediocre doctors, researchers(lets do a study to find out that smoking, chewing gum in the sun increases your chances at cancer three fold), well nearly everything has gone down hill.
In the past the older Teachers you could look upto and say, "wow, she's smart and full of knowledge" today you look at these new "teachers" and you wonder where and how they could have ever graduated and you worry about your own children.
But I guess I'm full of sh9t.
That's where the entire discussion began, the "idea"/mentality of companies and people. Everyone needs this paper to be "better" is what's keeping this arguement alive. As it's been mentioned, Schools want to make money, and they've found a way to make money and tripple their companies portfolios, promote schools, people will go to school, people need to pay for it, they get loans, they get jobs, etc.. it's a big fat gimmick, people notice how "valentines" day or "mother's" day etc are a scam, but people refuse to accept that maybe some how "education" is a scam or the process is a bit tainted and not well designed, atleast not for society.bandaid wrote:I guess the idea behind an advanced education is to make yourself more marketable in todays workforce.
The business of running any company requires an educated group of men and women who can think beyond the mundane day to day rigors of doing business.
Yes, that's what makes it valuable, but to taunt your peers with "I have a Masters (in Basket Weaving), so I should get a job on an Airbus" is another part of this discussion, the attitude that comes with these new "divine beings." If you're going to flaunt the fact you have a Masters you better not spell or say something stupid because it reflects poorly on you and the entire concept of "education."having something to fall back
Yet another wise person that can see the fallacy, unfortunately society won't change(for now).Griffon wrote:It means little in assessing intelligence, but it can mean everything in getting a job.... I'd do anything to change that history...
When I was a young man I worked for a guy who had a Doctorate in Russian history, all the rage during the cold war. Wanna guess what kind of work we did......Janitorial.
Anyone who flants his education in anothers face is a putz. Two points that I was making was
1: It may help your resume stand out
2: It may give you something to fall back on.
The kind of person that cyyz refers to will probably crash and burn in the interview. Here's where life skills take over. You can't really learn how to do a great interview in University, go through a couple and you will quickly learn what not to say. Sounds corny but practice with a friend before going on an interview and let that buddy be nasty. Somewheres in the middle between education and life skills comes the perfect employee as long as they learn well from both.
Anyone who flants his education in anothers face is a putz. Two points that I was making was
1: It may help your resume stand out
2: It may give you something to fall back on.
The kind of person that cyyz refers to will probably crash and burn in the interview. Here's where life skills take over. You can't really learn how to do a great interview in University, go through a couple and you will quickly learn what not to say. Sounds corny but practice with a friend before going on an interview and let that buddy be nasty. Somewheres in the middle between education and life skills comes the perfect employee as long as they learn well from both.
I was flying with the CP of this small operator in BC and some tourist we flew over the Fraser River and he told them that the Fraser River was the largest river in Canada. They snapped some photos. I kept my thoughts to myself but when we got back on the ground I said "nice BS the tourist's about the Fraser" he said what you mean it is the largest. Not wanting to be a total smartass I said I thought the Mackenzie or the St Lawrence were larger I could be wrong though. Knowing full well im right. Then he states "im a geography major want to bet" So I went big and said a months wage wich wasnt all that much because he payed 50 bucks a day. He backed down to a case of beer. And Im still waiting for that case of beer today. Shows you the quality of education some people get from a book. I knew about the Mackenzie and of course the St lawrence not only from elementary school but from flying around those areas and getting my own "Education."
How about we wrap this thread up with explanations as to the stupidity of two posters found within:
One: CYYZ
Please hold the critisism. Poor CYYZ flunked out of Bi 11 and since then learned how to adhere a bandaid to his lower... um... what do you call that thing attatched to the bottom of my arm? Hand.. right... hand. Now the doctor told him that the scratch would heal on his own but CYYZ took it upon himself to use a bandaid, which he felt was the neccessary remedy. It turned out that his hand did heal and soon the scratch dissappeared. Ever since CYYZ has been furious at the level of education provided to those receiving their medical papers and makes every attempt to critisize them. He feels that if a person who flunks Bi 11 can come up with a better diagnosis than a docter, than all doctors must be stupid. He is now willing to have his local mechanic operate in order to remove that large swelling that has been increasing pressure on his pint sized melon.
Two: Shitdisturber
Well poor shit is a self proclaimed genious. Unfortunately every problem that he has attempted to correct has resulted in failure. Instead of considering that perhaps he should seek help in overcoming this intelligence deficiency he feels that it would be more effective to try to critisize the people who are telling him that he is wrong. He's so hell bent on proving his intelligence that he's taken the following position.
Stat's labeling educated vs. uneducated are skewed because the uneducated could be educated through means other than traditional education. Thus educated people can't be compared with uneducated people as we can not derive what level of education has been achieved through various channels of education whether that education be Classroom education or Shop education but notwithstanding Self education and whether the payment is made to a Certified educationalist or the unlicenced educationalist.
Hence what is education? What am I talking about? Did anyone see some common sense lying around near the bar, I seemed to have misplaced mine?
Hopefully the above explanations will help the users of AvCanda in understanding the backgrounds involved in the outrageous posts made by these two in this forum. I know I was beginning to think that the world might indeed be flat for a moment there.
One: CYYZ
Please hold the critisism. Poor CYYZ flunked out of Bi 11 and since then learned how to adhere a bandaid to his lower... um... what do you call that thing attatched to the bottom of my arm? Hand.. right... hand. Now the doctor told him that the scratch would heal on his own but CYYZ took it upon himself to use a bandaid, which he felt was the neccessary remedy. It turned out that his hand did heal and soon the scratch dissappeared. Ever since CYYZ has been furious at the level of education provided to those receiving their medical papers and makes every attempt to critisize them. He feels that if a person who flunks Bi 11 can come up with a better diagnosis than a docter, than all doctors must be stupid. He is now willing to have his local mechanic operate in order to remove that large swelling that has been increasing pressure on his pint sized melon.
Two: Shitdisturber
Well poor shit is a self proclaimed genious. Unfortunately every problem that he has attempted to correct has resulted in failure. Instead of considering that perhaps he should seek help in overcoming this intelligence deficiency he feels that it would be more effective to try to critisize the people who are telling him that he is wrong. He's so hell bent on proving his intelligence that he's taken the following position.
Stat's labeling educated vs. uneducated are skewed because the uneducated could be educated through means other than traditional education. Thus educated people can't be compared with uneducated people as we can not derive what level of education has been achieved through various channels of education whether that education be Classroom education or Shop education but notwithstanding Self education and whether the payment is made to a Certified educationalist or the unlicenced educationalist.
Hence what is education? What am I talking about? Did anyone see some common sense lying around near the bar, I seemed to have misplaced mine?
Hopefully the above explanations will help the users of AvCanda in understanding the backgrounds involved in the outrageous posts made by these two in this forum. I know I was beginning to think that the world might indeed be flat for a moment there.
