BA 'excludes mothers as pilots' (Old news article)

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BA 'excludes mothers as pilots' (Old news article)

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A woman pilot will have to leave the job she loves if British Airways does not allow her to work part-time to look after her daughter, a tribunal heard.
Jessica Starmer, 26, from Wareham in Dorset, is claiming indirect sex discrimination against the airline.

Ms Starmer told the tribunal BA's "family-unfriendly working practices" reinforced male-dominated traditions.

BA refused her request to work 50% part-time but offered her 75% instead, which she said was unacceptable.

Ms Starmer, who is also claiming loss of earnings, wants to work part-time to look after her one-year-old daughter Beth with husband Simon, who is also a BA pilot.

The Oxford graduate told the hearing "I could not look after Beth on any other basis than 50% part-time work".

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Ms Starmer, a first officer with BA, told the hearing in Watford: "I have spent many years flying at every opportunity and have invested a great deal of time and effort working towards being able to earn my living through the activity I love."

She added: "I do not want to have to give up the job I have always wanted to do and worked so hard for."

The co-pilot, who joined BA in May 2001, told the tribunal she and her husband worked "extremely irregular" shift patterns, which made it difficult for them to care for their young daughter.

She said the work rota was allocated by a computerised "bidding" system based on seniority, meaning it was difficult for the couple to arrange their shifts so someone was always free to care for their child.

Ms Starmer told the hearing: "It was clear to me that following my daughter's birth, I would not be able to return to work full-time."

She said this was due to a combination of factors, but mainly because of the nature of the shift patterns.

She added that the times she started and finished work made it difficult to find a child minder and that there was no room at home for a live-in nanny.

She told the hearing: "BA's lack of accommodation for working mothers works to exclude females from its pilots and to reinforce, rather than reform, the traditional male dominance in its workforce."

Ms Starmer flies short haul across Europe in BA's A320 (Airbus) fleet; before joining the airline, she flew gliders for 10 years.

'Health risk'

The tribunal heard two other women pilots had applied to work 50% part-time but were only offered 75%.

After making a formal request in February last year to work part-time, Ms Starmer said she was refused due to "possible impacts on you, your colleagues and BA".

In April last year she was given a more detailed response which cited a range of reasons, including the impact on reserve pilots covering for colleagues unable to do their shifts.

The first officer also told the tribunal that BA said her request represented a health and safety risk because she was a junior pilot.

But she told the hearing she found it incredible no one had asked about her experience at any time during her application.

The hearing was adjourned until Tuesday.
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A female British Airways pilot who claimed sex discrimination in a dispute over working hours has won her case.
Jessica Starmer, 26, from Wareham in Dorset, said she was denied a request to work 50% part-time so she could look after her one-year-old daughter, Beth.

BA strongly denied the complaint, arguing it was a health and safety case because Ms Starmer had not completed the required amount of flying hours.

BA said the case was "about safety not gender" and it would appeal.

At a press conference on Friday, Ms Starmer said: "I'm delighted with this result.

"I'm delighted that I'll now be able to spend more time with my beautiful daughter Beth and will be able to combine caring for her with the responsibilities of my job.

"I believe that my request for flexible working was reasonable and justified and in accordance with the dual responsibilities I hold as a worker and as a parent.

"All that I wanted was for my daughter to be cared for properly while continuing in a career in which myself and my employer have invested lots of time and money."

A spokeswoman from BA said: "Jessica Starmer currently works part time on a 75% contract.

"British Airways has consistently said that the decision not to allow her to cut her working hours in half, to an average of just eight days a month, until she completes the required amount of flying hours was based on safety not sex discrimination.

"British Airways believes that its pilots should have at least 2,000 flying hours experience - approximately three years of full time flying - before it is acceptable for them to work at 50% levels, which equates to only eight days a month.

"This safety threshold is applied equally, whether the pilot is male or female."

'Flexible working

Caroline Slowcock, chief executive of the Equal Opportunities Commission, said: "This case means that companies will have to seriously consider requests from employees who want to change their hours.

"Those organisation that want to keep the best people need to find ways to help men and women balance work and home life."

Ms Starmer, a first officer with BA, told the tribunal in January that BA's "family-unfriendly working practices" reinforced male-dominated traditions.

The pilot, who joined BA in May 2001, told the tribunal she and her husband, who is also a pilot, worked "extremely irregular" shift patterns, which made it difficult for them to care for their young daughter.

She added that the times she started and finished work made it difficult to find a child minder and that there was no room at home for a live-in nanny.

Ms Starmer flies short haul across Europe in BA's A320 (Airbus) fleet.

Jim McAuslan, general secretary of The British Airline Pilots' Association (BALPA), said: "We welcome the tribunal's decision and hope that it will encourage more airlines to introduce better part time and flexible working arrangements for all flight crew."
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Was there men who were allowed through with less than 2000hrs while she was denined? If not how has this been twisted into a gender issue? Seems bizzare to me.
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As my original post got wiped, I'll try to re-post from what I can remember...

The original argument went something along the lines of the idea that this lady may have been one of the last pilot cadetships (i.e. BA paid for her training) and perhaps this was the reason they were reluctant to let her go 50% (28 days on 28 days off) working. Seeing as BA stopped their sponsored "Pilot Cadetship" training program directly after 9/11 and she started in 2001, she may have been one of the very last graduates from Oxford where all their training was done.

I believe there are several issues here. First of all, seniority is absolutely everything at BA and this particular pilot would not be that senior compared to other pilots. That would cause a problem from the get go. As far as Maternity leave goes, the model for Flight Crew is likely based on the one that the Cabin Crew have had in place for a while - that is - a period of (seniority protected) time off and then a phased in return to work which starts on a part time basis and eventually goes back to full time. After that you would have to put yourself on the waiting list for part time working with all the other guys and gals. Secondly, the ongoing cost of training (sim checks etc) would be prohibitive if you only had a pilot working 50% of the time. Thirdly, to be fair you would have to give this option to all those Dad's too - could you imagine the cost to BA?! So yeah, this is a gender issue for sure. :shock:
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Very interesting article. I think the size of BA is what caused this problems. Most companies that have an interest in your family wouldn't have a problem with this. I do believe it is only fair to offer this to both men or women (just like in canada where Materinity leave can be taken by either man or women). Part time is part time, but if children come into the spectrum, i think there needs to be a clause to allow parents to take the time they need to raise there kids. I don't have children, but i can only imagine how much of a commitment it is. Seeing how so many children are raised by tv's, daycares, and nanny's, it is very hard for me to look down on a women who wants to still work, and take care of her child. I think it's admirable, and it needs to set a precident in field of work that can be flexible but chooses not to be, and in turn is forced to be. I don't think this means that everyone is going to run out there and have babies and work part time, it's not like she is trying to make things difficult. She is trying to maintain her career and raise a child. I am assuming she will recieve part time wages. Maybe if her husband raised the issue, and requested part time work the gender issue wouldn't have been raised.
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huge thread on PPRuNe about Ms Starmer
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread ... ht=starmer
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