250 hrs

vip_pilot · Post by **vip_pilot** » Sat May 27, 2006 4:22 pm

where can you get hired with 250TT hrs ???
200 single engine
50 multi engine

Rowdy · Post by **Rowdy** » Sat May 27, 2006 4:38 pm

I'll hire you to clean my shitters!

In all seriousness.. get the aviation business directory or find the online transport canada listing and hunt down all the operators that you'd like to work the ramp ahem* I mean fly for and start firing off resumes and shaking hands/knocking on doors.

Check the archives.. watch the job postings and best of luck.

looproll · Post by **looproll** » Sat May 27, 2006 7:52 pm

where can you get hired with 250TT hrs ???

McDonalds! haha sorry, couldn't resist

Rowdy is on the right track.

If you're interested in instructing, there is a shortage with all the upward movement lately.

snag · Post by **snag** » Sun May 28, 2006 8:37 am

Should'a done some research before your investment, eh? I love it when these guys graduate and come out with the "now what?" attitude.

ok, ok...here's where I'd start: go to http://www.pilotcareercenter.com Look under Air Carrier Info: search by region -> Canada, and then go through all of them to see which would be interested in a 250hr driver, then call, mail, and visit. I'd pick a strong company that has a well established ramp program.

If that fails, call your AC mom and/or dad, buy a PPC, instruct, or go work the oil field in Alberta.

vip_pilot · Post by **vip_pilot** » Sun May 28, 2006 9:29 am

where can you buy pcc from ??

JW · Post by JW » Sun May 28, 2006 9:58 am

removed

ZBB118.10 · Post by **ZBB118.10** » Sun May 28, 2006 12:26 pm

Is anybody actually gonna help this guy, or are we all just gonna hurl sarcastic and condescending comments at him?...

wallypilot · Post by **wallypilot** » Sun May 28, 2006 12:41 pm

snag wrote: ok, ok...here's where I'd start: go to http://www.pilotcareercenter.com Look under Air Carrier Info: search by region -> Canada, and then go through all of them to see which would be interested in a 250hr driver, then call, mail, and visit. I'd pick a strong company that has a well established ramp program.

snag had some good advice. start by getting an idea of what companies are out there. don't let other people tell you. find out for yourself. also, if you can afford it, pick up a copy of JP Fleets at your local pilot shop. pricey, but an invaluable resource. or find someone that has it and ask to photo copy the Canada section. Pilotcareercentre is a good place to start, though. The best way to learn is to do it yourself, so start calling, faxing, mailing, and emailing resumes, and always FOLLOW UP your resume a week or 2 later with a phone call.

Spokes · Post by **Spokes** » Sun May 28, 2006 12:43 pm

At the risk of trying to be helpful,

Decide what line of aviation you want to get into. Do you want to fly in the bush. Float plane flying is a lot of fun. The common consensus around here is to get a float endorsement then look into starting on a dock somewhere. This may involve a road trip to some fairly remote areas.

Do you want to do IFR type work. This would involve being a cojo on a larger twin. You will need a bit more experience for this. I would recommend an instructors rateing. Instructors are in demand right now. You can build your time, and at the same time improve your flying skills, and learn more about regs and procedures. This will also get you 'into the community', and help you to make the right contacts.

This is probably something of an over-simplification, but hopefully it will start you thinking in the right way. I am sure others could expand on this. Every one of the "sarcastic" high timers here were once two hundred hour pilots. i'm sure they all have differnt stroies on how they got going.

heavymetal · Post by **heavymetal** » Sun May 28, 2006 12:44 pm

I vote for hurling of sarcastic comments. Infact lets find out who else thinks so http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopi ... 807#187807

wallypilot · Post by **wallypilot** » Sun May 28, 2006 1:09 pm

just as importantly, be resourceful. Figure out for yourself how to look for these companies. When I first started, pre internet proliferation, i worked for BC Tel, and so had access to all the phone books in Canada, and photocopied all the pages that had the listings for the charter companies. I called many of them, found out what kind of fleet they had, whether they hire low timers, and made a list of the ones that did hire low time, and started applying my mailing resumes. I followed this up a few weeks later with a road trip to hit the employers that were most likely to offer me something.

i think with the proliferatin of the WWW, we are all so lazy now. However, it is an amazing tool, something I wish I had when i was hunting for that first job.

wheeliedriver · Post by **wheeliedriver** » Mon May 29, 2006 8:35 am

vip_pilot Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 11:29 am Post subject:

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where can you buy pcc from ??

WOW! I thought with Regency and Navair gone people might have figured out that buying a right seat ppc on a navajo and working for free was a bad idea.

Just a heads up vip-pilot, there are companies out there who don't hire guys who bought their ppc's at wal-mart, and lots more pilots who you'll have a hard time gettin along with. Don't sell yourself short, you're worth more than that.

cyyz · Post by **cyyz** » Mon May 29, 2006 8:37 am

wheeliedriver wrote: Just a heads up vip-pilot, there are companies out there who don't hire guys who bought their ppc's at wal-mart, and lots more pilots who you'll have a hard time gettin along with. Don't sell yourself short, you're worth more than that.

Think half the guys from jetsgo are flying in Asia right now... Think they paid 30k for their "training."

CAL · Post by **CAL** » Mon May 29, 2006 9:25 am

I'm with what spokes said.

You are actually in a great place right now and probably one of the most important times in what hopefully will be a long and positive career. It sucks to have 250TT no doubt it may take a while but we all did it...keep in mind it is 250 more than you used to have.

Anyway you really need to take a step back and have a look at the entire industry and decide where you want to be for the next 3-5 years or more. Do you want Bush or Pavement or Floats....try and send yourself in that direction and let potential employers know that is where you want to be. It will help to give you focus. No doubt as most will say you should take whatever you can get if you get to fly....but no point sitting right seat in a king Air at 3am on your 13th hour in Feb delivering someone with a broken hip for treatment if you would rather be flying floats in the summer in Northern Ontario.....

Just a thought.....I knew a guy with 250 hours that got in his car drove to Northern Ontario in March a few years back and was flying floats by the end of the season....

wha happen · Post by **wha happen** » Tue May 30, 2006 5:54 pm

I know that vip is new and all but i mean come on "where can i buy a PPC?" Well why dont you caome over to my place, i have an extra one in the cupboard and i can kick you in the balls.

What are these kids being taught?

JW · Post by JW » Tue May 30, 2006 9:01 pm

Dust Devil · Post by **Dust Devil** » Tue May 30, 2006 11:04 pm

vip_pilot wrote:where can you get hired with 250TT hrs ???
200 single engine
50 multi engine

Sunrise Aviation in Estevan, Sask needs a pipeline pilot asap!!!

CAL · Post by **CAL** » Wed May 31, 2006 8:15 am

damn I didnt see that post about buying a ppc which he actually typed a 'pcc'.....

VIP if your for real which I doubt you are....pilots never pay to fly...thats why you did all that f---ing training.

Dust Devil · Post by **Dust Devil** » Wed May 31, 2006 9:23 am

vip_pilot wrote:where can you buy pcc from ??

I'll gladly sell you a pcc or a ppc

cyyz · Post by **cyyz** » Wed May 31, 2006 11:17 am

Dust Devil wrote:
vip_pilot wrote:where can you buy pcc from ??
I'll gladly sell you a pcc or a ppc

$50.... Take it now!@!!

cyyz · Post by **cyyz** » Wed May 31, 2006 11:18 am

CAL wrote: VIP if your for real which I doubt you are....pilots never pay to fly...thats why you did all that f---ing training.

*shits himself laughing* Jetsgo, and well pretty much everyone else out their with their "bonds."

Chuck D · Post by **Chuck D** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:44 am

I find it funny how some of you guys are very quick to dump people with 250 hrs. What a small little world you must live in. Outside the bountyful borders of Canada sits the rest of the world. Look at the hiring overseas, 250 hrs guys and gals are getting jet jobs.

Puddle Jumper · Post by **Puddle Jumper** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:21 am

I'm with . D on this one. Didn't you guys ever have 250 hours, or did the "hours fairy" visit one day and give you a short memory? VIP's asking a simple question and looking to you "experienced professionals" for advice and doesn't deserve the crap some of you are dishing out!

You guys also need to understand that paying for a ppc or being bonded to an operator is well and truly on the way! With the large airlines recruiting experienced pilots, the attrition rate is high for the smaller operators who'll need to protect themselves financially in the future

VIP, if you want to gain some real life experience, build good quality hours and poetically scare yourself shitless, then dump Canada for a while, put on a rucksack and get your ass down to Africa. I'm not promising you'll find a job right away, it could take a week, it could take a month, but you'll meet lots of like minded (and experienced) pilots from all over the world. I recommend you look here http://www.pprune.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=37 or here http://africaspotter.6.forumer.com/. Post a notice asking for advice or to see if anybody else is thinking of doing the same thing.

Good luck and enjoy the rest of your flying career - what ever you choose to do!

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