Oh yeah, a couple more things to put in your brain for your ride:
Always taxi/take-off/land on the centreline - put the nose (wheel) right on the centre and be professional (not only does it impress them, its good airmanship).
Always know where the wind is - do your runup into wind (and keep the blast away from people, cars and buildings), and always hold your flight controls in the proper direction as you taxi around in a wind (dive and away etc.).
Good Luck,
Snoopy
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I agree as well. I have spoken to an examiner who admits he is much tougher when he does monitored rides. It's not worth the savings; Failing will cost you more in the end. Although if you are a solid pilot you have nothing to worry about....................
Hi CW,
Thanks for the compliment! The advice was free - free to copy and pass on as you like. Those were just a few of the things passed on to me over the years and its always paid off to practice them....
Cheers,
Snoopy
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Well, maybe it's different for inspectors monitoring instructors. I did my ACP monitor this week. Guy introduced himself to my candidate, said he was there to assess me, not him, brought in coffee and shut up.
We did the ride and he didn't say word one. We got out and he nodded at buddy, said "We'll be right in". He looked at me and said, whaddya think?. I gave him a thumbsup and thought it was a good ride, he said yeah and we went in to do the debrief.
I debriefed the irde, asked the safety pilot what he thought. Then I saked the candidate what he thought then what the inspector thought. The inspector thought that the training and ride was great, and he had no comments except for what we had said.
My debrief was... "That was fine, see you next year."
just curious wrote:Well, maybe it's different for inspectors monitoring instructors. I did my ACP monitor this week. Guy introduced himself to my candidate, said he was there to assess me, not him, brought in coffee and shut up.
We did the ride and he didn't say word one. We got out and he nodded at buddy, said "We'll be right in". He looked at me and said, whaddya think?. I gave him a thumbsup and thought it was a good ride, he said yeah and we went in to do the debrief.
I debriefed the irde, asked the safety pilot what he thought. Then I saked the candidate what he thought then what the inspector thought. The inspector thought that the training and ride was great, and he had no comments except for what we had said.
My debrief was... "That was fine, see you next year."
A vast majority are like that. It is easier, of course, when you have a strong candidate.
Another thing, you effectively have a passenger in the TC guy - make sure you do a thorough safety briefing, and while you're at it, tell your examiner what you expect from him, eg: simulated zero thrust only, no touching the fuel valves, make sure he looks out, refuse a hood etc etc. I like to get 'em to work too: hold a checklist, map etc.
Long ago, when I did my captain's ride with TC on a Dash 7 in the sim, I was justifiably pleased; I then got de-briefed and I was told by this *ssh*le that if I didn't perform well in the right seat for the other candidate, he would pull my new ticket!
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You know, I have to agree with the statement from wingtip here...not the responses to the challenge from Croissant Wrench, but the reference to basic airmanship.
That is a common gripe in the industry today and it is in my opinion, a valid one.
It needs to be emphasised by the instructors from the beginning of your training.
Landing on the centerline, runnup into wind and not to blow on other aircraft.... That IS basic.
Those things may be basic, but they're NOT happening out there.
This whole thread began by a newbie looking for advice about monitor rides and another asking for advice about a ride. Some opinions were being provided about those topics - why the mud-slinging and insults? I just don't get it.
Cheers,
Snoopy
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Thank you all for the advice, I have my monitored ride on the 13th, DFTE and TC, I will go into the ride being mor relaxed and knowing what to expect now compared to a normal ride, thanks again for the advice and tips they really do help me alot.
mattas350 wrote:Thank you all for the advice, I have my monitored ride on the 13th, DFTE and TC, I will go into the ride being mor relaxed and knowing what to expect now compared to a normal ride, thanks again for the advice and tips they really do help me alot.
I did a ride in a business jet years ago (before simulator use was mandated) where I was the PPC candidate, the CCP was being monitored as was the TC guy monitoring him. So, 2 crew and 3 check pilots.
Interesting ride and in my opinion, nothing but an exercise in dotting I's and crossing T's.
flystraightin wrote:But TC Guy, I've got to ask... who monitors the TC guy monitoring the CCP?
Well... I suppose we could get into an infinite loop here... the point, I suppose is that all PE's (Pilot Examiners) and TC Inspectors are monitored on an ongoing basis.
