CBC - news article The Enemy Within

Stearman · Post by **Stearman** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:19 pm

In lite of what happened over the weekend, with the arrests of suspected terrorists wanting to blow up canadiana and behead our PM. So we could all have our own little 9-11 right here in Canada.

Did anyone see the news article on the CBC by Mark Kelly.

What did any of you guys think about it?

That and I also just want to say The Hour on the CBC rocks!

corporate joe · Post by **corporate joe** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:22 pm

Well, on a side note, I was in the US and saw how they covered the article in their newspapers and they did give credit to the Canadian effort. Nice to see...

swede · Post by **swede** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:33 pm

Well, you have one part right - the enemy within..

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ju ... orplot.htm

swede · Post by **swede** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:37 pm

Could it be

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/june20 ... orists.htm

corporate joe · Post by **corporate joe** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:05 pm

gotta be careful with one website sources, does not always paint an accurate picture,

x-wind · Post by **x-wind** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:12 pm

I thought the Dutch part was interesting. But the UK part was kind of lame. I don't know if I like that Mark guy. But back to the Dutch thing....pretty interesting and I would say they are being raciest.

Overall view on the shit that just happened in Canada- that's what happens when you piss psycho's off. I doubt it would have happened if we hadn't take a lead role in Afghanistan.

Scuba_Steve · Post by **Scuba_Steve** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:44 am

x-wind wrote:I thought the Dutch part was interesting. But the UK part was kind of lame. I don't know if I like that Mark guy. But back to the Dutch thing....pretty interesting and I would say they are being raciest.

Overall view on the shit that just happened in Canada- that's what happens when you piss psycho's off. I doubt it would have happened if we hadn't take a lead role in Afghanistan.

Oh please, Osama was identifying canada as a target well before we went into Afghanistan, our troops there may have accelerated some plans, but this crap was inevitable.

But hey I guess we should have thought twice about rebuilding a failed state since it might piss off a few muslim nut jobs.

Kudos to the cops, I hope they put these bastards away for good.

Cheers

Expat · Post by **Expat** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:30 am

Scuba_Steve wrote:
x-wind wrote:I thought the Dutch part was interesting. But the UK part was kind of lame. I don't know if I like that Mark guy. But back to the Dutch thing....pretty interesting and I would say they are being raciest.

Overall view on the shit that just happened in Canada- that's what happens when you piss psycho's off. I doubt it would have happened if we hadn't take a lead role in Afghanistan.
Oh please, Osama was identifying canada as a target well before we went into Afghanistan, our troops there may have accelerated some plans, but this crap was inevitable.

But hey I guess we should have thought twice about rebuilding a failed state since it might piss off a few muslim nut jobs.

Kudos to the cops, I hope they put these bastards away for good.

Cheers

Yea, but these bastards are more than one billion...Mogadishu has been re-taken, the Talibans are gaining grounds in the south here,...
If you guys think this will go away, you are dreaming...If Musharaf falls, they will have tha A thing...

That is a real possibility...

PITA · Post by **PITA** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:37 am

I saw the news article and although it was put together pretty quickly due to the receint arrests in TO it sure protrayed what could happen if immigrents do not try and assimilate with the society they settlle in.

This was the difference between the situation in UK and Holland. If you want to call the Dutch racist and the Brits not that is for you to argue.

However IMHO the Dutch are try to have ther immigrants adapt to their culture and not the other way around.

PITA

shitdisturber · Post by **shitdisturber** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:50 am

Now for the really interesting question. Will the minors in the group get the usual, "six months and go sin no more sentence"? After all, what did Father what's his name from Boystown say, "no boy is really a bad boy" or something ludicrous like that?

North Shore · Post by **North Shore** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:52 am

I watched the whole piece, and found it pretty interesting. The Brits kinda pissed me off - great social commentators - 15 year olds drinking on a street corner in the middle of the day

I wouldn't ask them for directions to a corner store.

The Dutch have a good point, IMHO. It really annoys me here to see women veiled in public. I'd like to think that we are a country that does't support the repression of women ( I acknowledge the contradiction here that it may be their choice to be so veiled.) I like the fact that I can get some of the best ethnic food in the world in the various enclaves in cities around Canada - but it really pisses me off when those enclaves bring their 'old country' battles and attitudes here, where they are supposed to be making a new start. If you want to come here, fine - work hard at making Canada a great place, with all of the good attributes of your previous country. If you simply want to use Canada as a secure base to stir up your old country, or worse, stir it up here, then fcuk of back home because we don't wnat or need you here..

cyyz · Post by **cyyz** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:56 am

North Shore wrote: but it really pisses me off when those enclaves bring their 'old country' battles and attitudes here, where they are supposed to be making a new start. If you want to come here, fine - work hard at making Canada a great place, with all of the good attributes of your previous country. If you simply want to use Canada as a secure base to stir up your old country, or worse, stir it up here, then fcuk of back home because we don't wnat or need you here..

You sir, are a racist. =)

spoiler · Post by **spoiler** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:58 am

dance puppets.
dance.

gowest · Post by **gowest** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:26 am

that mascarade is another great opportunity for the security/weapons industry!

more unlimited spending...

I shouldn't take too long till Canada gets is own "patriot act"...

2R · Post by 2R » Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:04 pm

Interesting that even the CBC is calling them the ENEMY

Stearman · Post by **Stearman** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:16 am

Yeah it is interesting that the CBC is refering to them as the enemy.

I would be interested to know from someone maybe an expate. What happens when you move to one of these middle east countries with your family. Are you then expected to respect there culture and assimilate. I know there are a couple of so speak more liberal arab countries, but are they trying to embrace multiculturalism there as we do here.

corporate joe · Post by **corporate joe** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:27 am

Stearman wrote:Yeah it is interesting that the CBC is refering to them as the enemy.

I would be interested to know from someone maybe an expate. What happens when you move to one of these middle east countries with your family. Are you then expected to respect there culture and assimilate. I know there are a couple of so speak more liberal arab countries, but are they trying to embrace multiculturalism there as we do here.

No, they don't. That doesn't mean we shouldn't. Lead by example.

Stearman · Post by **Stearman** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:05 am

Yep I agree with ya there.

But if a person plans on moving to a country where they don't believe in multicultralism maybe they shouldn't come here. I don't think the idea of multicultralism is to let people in that are hell bent on not fitting in with the other cultures of the country, so they can change it. So is it to much to ask a person to learn what is appropriate in that country they move to. Would that not be politically correct of a person to do this, to respect ones and others rights and not infringe on other peoples rights? Like someone said on the program "multicuturalism is a 2 way street."

Not that we are not guilty of pushing our views on foriegn states or people like christianty where they have been going all over the world trying to change everyone. Or when we a nation of immigrants British, French or whatever.... move into North America and basically take over from the natives of this land and to turn it into our now what are considered multicultural countries so to speak.

Imagine what the natives would have been able to do if they where more organised and more technologically advance back in the day then we where. Would they have embrace this multiculturalism or would they have protected themselves better inorder to protect there culture.

PS- is there a spell check function on avcanada?

mellow_pilot · Post by **mellow_pilot** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:16 am

Stearman wrote: Imagine what the natives would have been able to do if they where more organised and more technologically advance back in the day then we where. Would they have embrace this multiculturalism or would they have protected themselves better inorder to protect there culture.

Time for the hip waders fellas, I smell a fishing expedition...

Stearman · Post by **Stearman** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:32 am

haha! fishing expedition good one. But for what? That would take me to much energy to think that far ahead.

Anyway whatever; it was neat program. Just gets ya thinking and that was all that was intended.

Cheers folks.

Can't we just all get along, and calm the fcuk down things would be alot better then eh.

corporate joe · Post by **corporate joe** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:51 am

Stearman wrote:
"multicuturalism is a 2 way street."

Well said. Just go to be careful, a lot of posts I read seem a bit too radical, and since I don't have a solution to offer in exchange, I refrain from posting. However, we have to be really careful to not become what we are fighting. Radicalism used to fight radicalism does not seem like the right approach, I think history has taugh us that already.

2R · Post by 2R » Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:57 am

Sorry Joe i would have to respectfully disagree with your well thought out position.
We did not defeat Nazism with boy scouts.We killed and destroyed a lot of innocent Germans to stop Hitlers 10 million armed forces.And finally liberate the Germans from Nazism and Communism.
This war will not be easy to win as the Enemy hides behind civilian clothes and womens skirts.
The good news is that these guys may be dangerous but they are totally stupid.Almost comically dumb.If they were not killing people they would be up for ridicule for being the most stupid humans on the planet.
We will not defeat these guys by apologizing for our existence or apologizing for our culture. If they are so offended by us why do they choose to live amongst us like Vipers.Why do they not just go live in a cave somewhere.....far away.
The time for pleading with them is rapidly coming to an end and the Beginning of their end is coming.

Dex · Post by **Dex** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 10:23 am

2R wrote: We did not defeat Nazism with boy scouts.We killed and destroyed a lot of innocent Germans to stop Hitlers 10 million armed forces.And finally liberate the Germans from Nazism and Communism.

You are not implying the Nazi Party were communists, are you? The Irony in your statement is that around 15 million Germans were under communist rule after the war.

2R · Post by 2R » Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:33 am

Sorry i should be a little more explicit and less cryptic.I did not mean to imply that at all.
Technically speaking until all the combatants have gone home your country is still at war .Hence the Cold War a silent continuation of ww2 finally ended when the Red Army went home and the Berlin wall came down.

JakeYYZ · Post by **JakeYYZ** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:15 pm

My question is this: you take a bunch of dudes who spent centuries eschewing washing and smiling,
treating women as chattel, and castrate their girls before they are in their teens, making them even
less likely to accept advances from big Moe in adulthood.

They go over to a land where other than grunge and metal chicks, the women prefer a clean, happy man,
have the right to say no, and they see women on TV and in magazines enjoying their sexuality and enjoying
freedom and opportunity.

It is a land where, generally, people develop friendships and work together, can trust most people
(exception: liberals), and are not pre-occupied 24-7 with getting even with or blowing up the neighbours
across the border (again, exception: liberals).

You are surrounded by joy, and community, something that you are historically not familiar with or inclined to,
nobody is stoned to death in the soccer stadiums on Sunday as a catharsis for your rage.

Some will see the light and take benefit from the new opportunity. But some will always opt for the embittered
pitbull strike mechanism and try to kill off the perceived unfamiliar persons near their space.

This now appears to be an inevitable and constant struggle until the pitbulls or their perceived enemies are
out of the equation, complements of Trudope, Crouton and Fat Paulie. As an added bonus, technological
advances march on over time, giving the pitbull more and better-concealed options for doom.

Now Libs, here is your favourite question for G.W. Bush right back at you; this just ain't gonna end peacefully -
so what is your canajun exit strategy?