External loads

Airtids · Post by **Airtids** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:19 pm

WE'RE BACK!!!

Just got CBAAC 0232R2 in the mail today. Exemption re-instated 'till Dec 31, 2008!!

Strap it on, proving flight (1 circuit?) and you're away. Part of this new deal, however, is that bi-annual reports detailing EACH flight are to be forwarded to TC to ensure data collection.

Bring on the mountain bikes!!

cessnafloatflyer · Post by **cessnafloatflyer** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:35 pm

I'll look into this on monday, however am i wrong that if my company ops manual allows for flights with external loads than i can once again carry loads according to the manual?
Finally...
A bit of extra paperwork is worth it...

snoopy · Post by **snoopy** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:57 am

Cessnaflyer,
If your Ops manual contained previous information regarding the carriage of external loads, it will most certainly need amending before you can carry external loads on any aircraft without an STC (or proper paperwork for the STC) - and regardless of whether or not passengers are carried - because this exemption is different than those of the past. From some of the comments posted here it would appear that not everyone has read the new exemption through very carefully.
Cheers,
Snoopy

Airtids · Post by **Airtids** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:58 am

snoopy wrote: From some of the comments posted here it would appear that not everyone has read the new exemption through very carefully.
Cheers,
Snoopy

Please fill us in on what you see our misunderstandings to be. Perhaps you could give us your interpretation. The way I see it is this: Ops Manual that identifies how external loads shall be carried, and outlining the training conducted in carriage of externals. Proving flight for each 'type' of load carried, and data to be forwarded to TC detailing each external load flight every 6 months. Am I off here?

CD · Post by CD » Sat Jun 10, 2006 2:15 pm

CBAAC 0232R2

Airtids · Post by **Airtids** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:14 pm

Yup, that's the one I got. Have I got it right? This circular simply refers to the requirements as set out in the original exemption, which I'm having some difiiculty tracking down.

snoopy · Post by **snoopy** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:37 pm

Airtids,
There is a NEW exemption out: No. 051-2006-NCR/RCN RDIMS #1798324, and yes it is very difficult to find - but your inspector should be able to fax or mail you a copy. You can't just use the material in the ops manual from the previous exemptions as this exemption is different. Never mind the CBAAC, you need the exemption itself which clearly lays out the information that must be contained in the your ops manual, and how to properly meet the terms and conditions of the exemption. No interpretation required - just read carefully.
Cheers,
Snoopy

ps regarding CBAAC's: note the disclaimer written on the bottom of each and every CBAAC "Commercial and Business Aviation Advisory Circulars (CBAAC) are intended to provide information and guidance regarding operational matters. A CBAAC may describe an acceptable, but not the only means of demonstrating compliance with the existing regulations. CBAAC's in and of themselves do not change, create any additional, authorize changes in, or permit deviations from regulatory requirements"

Airtids · Post by **Airtids** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:08 pm

Snoopy, Thanks.