JV guys - the "giver"
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JV guys - the "giver"
Ex-JV driver, with enquiring mind needs to know,,,
What ever became of the "giver". There was a notorious incident several years ago at YQK involving a King Air and busting of minimums. TC attempted to throw the book at him to the tune of a 300-day suspension, but it was to be appealed. That's the last I heard. Anyone from that era at JV have anything further they are willing to post? I must assume that this individual has retired, or is at least of retirement age by now.
Thanks
What ever became of the "giver". There was a notorious incident several years ago at YQK involving a King Air and busting of minimums. TC attempted to throw the book at him to the tune of a 300-day suspension, but it was to be appealed. That's the last I heard. Anyone from that era at JV have anything further they are willing to post? I must assume that this individual has retired, or is at least of retirement age by now.
Thanks
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him retire, haha, nope still flyingCaptain S itmagnet wrote:Ex-JV driver, with enquiring mind needs to know,,,
What ever became of the "giver". There was a notorious incident several years ago at YQK involving a King Air and busting of minimums. TC attempted to throw the book at him to the tune of a 300-day suspension, but it was to be appealed. That's the last I heard. Anyone from that era at JV have anything further they are willing to post? I must assume that this individual has retired, or is at least of retirement age by now.
Thanks
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JV guys - the "giver"
ok, the easy part is solved, he's still flying. That explains the voice I thought I heard on the radio. Now, Flywest, pull up a scotch and tell us a story... 

I'm glad I'm not a pilot because all these bad stories would involve me somehow...hell...I'm surprised that I'm not blamed for this one!
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This is a great time to state the obvious...
A great pilot is a lot more than simple stick and rudder. Everyone here knows that a large chunk of the picture is decision making.
The Giver is the WORST decison maker and therefore...pilot I have ever known.
As a person...great guy. Pilot....YIKES.
A great pilot is a lot more than simple stick and rudder. Everyone here knows that a large chunk of the picture is decision making.
The Giver is the WORST decison maker and therefore...pilot I have ever known.
As a person...great guy. Pilot....YIKES.
Actually, Gear Up,Gear Up wrote:Disco,
Did you ever think........"Giver" might say the same about you?
Gear Up!
PS. I don't really think he gives a rat's ass what you think of him thus you've wasted your time with your opinion.
Have an awesome weekend dude!
I don't give a rat's hairy ass what the Giver thinks about me. In fact, him and I have had many discussions that clearly underscore our difference of approach. His opinion on matters related to flying are utterly inconsequential to me.
Thanks for the input though

A great weekend to you too!
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Hey Louis. Just think of why one would be named "giver" when it comes to flying.Louis wrote:One question for the ininformed here: Why the nickname "the Giver"?
Goodbye,
Louis
Guys question for ya, I know that he has been violated, but has he ever had an accident? From what I know I don't think he has
flyinhigh stated:
Then you obviously haven't heard all the Giver stories. He has never killed anyone but as far as bent metal goes, well that is a different story!!!!has he ever had an accident? From what I know I don't think he has
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I had left JV shortly before the YQK incident, and was still in YQT at the time. I won't get into the specific story but needless to say it was an example of what the concept of CRM is not about. The Giver did lose his licence for a year( or there abouts) because of that flight, that I can say with 100% certainty.
Back around '87 we used to have to attend the "Giver groundschool", given by who else but the Giver. Lots of very interesting approach information given in those G/S's and how to take apart a B-99's electric gear motor with nothing more than a pair of tweezers and a needle.
(Alot of sarcasm meant in the last line.)
Then there came the first version of the JV SOP's. I think you can guess who wrote them. There was one part that had to do with an engine failure on take off. It basically said that the F/O was to sit on his hands and not touch a F****n thing. I think I still have the origional document in a box in the basement somewhere.
Anyways, they were interesting days in Northern Ontario, JV has evolved in alot of positive ways from those days,( not that we thought that there was anything wrong with it at the time), there was and there still are alot of good people working there.
Back around '87 we used to have to attend the "Giver groundschool", given by who else but the Giver. Lots of very interesting approach information given in those G/S's and how to take apart a B-99's electric gear motor with nothing more than a pair of tweezers and a needle.

Then there came the first version of the JV SOP's. I think you can guess who wrote them. There was one part that had to do with an engine failure on take off. It basically said that the F/O was to sit on his hands and not touch a F****n thing. I think I still have the origional document in a box in the basement somewhere.
Anyways, they were interesting days in Northern Ontario, JV has evolved in alot of positive ways from those days,( not that we thought that there was anything wrong with it at the time), there was and there still are alot of good people working there.
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The Giver
Had the pleasure of meeting "The Giver" a few years ago when my F/O, a former Bearskins Pilot and I were having breakfast in YWG. I had no idea who the hell this was and my F/O hadn't clued me in, so if first impressions count,well this guys an idiot. Only afterwards did I get the dirt,so to speak.Unfortunately these guys are everywhere. The sad part is that they will outlive the rest of us!!Obvlivious to the dangers that exist.
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Does he still have 2 hair pieces? I was always tempted to glue velcro to the roof and see if it would stick.
Apparently there is also a goos story about those cowboy boots pointing straight up on the ramp in YWG and someone losing their job...what I heard is 3rd or 4th hand info, but I'm sure someone on here would have witnessed it.
Apparently there is also a goos story about those cowboy boots pointing straight up on the ramp in YWG and someone losing their job...what I heard is 3rd or 4th hand info, but I'm sure someone on here would have witnessed it.
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JV? was that a company? lol,i think were talkin about the same guy...cowboy boots toupee? flyin the tube?
i dont know about his flying ....but he's probably the best pilot to deal with ....always on time...orders his fuel well in advance....never changes his fuel load over and over...and over...like some of you
always see him helping load his own plane....seems like a damn good guy to me 
i dont know about his flying ....but he's probably the best pilot to deal with ....always on time...orders his fuel well in advance....never changes his fuel load over and over...and over...like some of you

