Ok Guys & Gals, light up the fax machine PLEASE. We need a PA34 Capt to start ASAP (we had a driver quit mid season, and this should NOT happen however..). CONTRACT requirements are 1500 TT 250 Multi, 50 multi PIC last 12 months, and 25 on type. Current PPC would be greatly appreciated, but, we will train the right candidate. You would need to be in CYPA for no later then June 25th.
Please send resumes to Capt Al Hoggan, CP, National Aviation
Fax (306) 763-6532, or email nac@inet2000.com
If you hold a current PPC, the CP will accept your call.
Thanks in advance to all that apply. PM me if you require any further info.
Fly safe all., Cheers
PA34 Capt needed Immediately!!
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flyinthebug
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Thanks to all that have applied so quickly.
Sadly, we were left in a position that we almost needed a person with a current PPC. Getting TC to come to YPA to do a VFR PPC on short notice, is almost impossible. Hence, why we were looking for anyone that may have held a current prof. For the record, we hired a guy with PA34 time, but no PPC, but, we are doing his training and ride next week. We got lucky, plain and simple. This is why, you NEVER walk out on a company during its busy season, it can turn the whole operation upside down, espically in a smaller company like ours. Lesson to myself in all this, never trust the word of a guy with 5000 hours in the right seat of a Dash7, cause first chance they get, no matter what promises they make you when your hiring them, they`ll bail for bigger tin, and less responsibility with 3 bars. Hope the "career co-pilot" thing works out for you dipsh*t.
Its been a crappy day, signing off. Thanks again to everyone.
Fly safe all.
Sadly, we were left in a position that we almost needed a person with a current PPC. Getting TC to come to YPA to do a VFR PPC on short notice, is almost impossible. Hence, why we were looking for anyone that may have held a current prof. For the record, we hired a guy with PA34 time, but no PPC, but, we are doing his training and ride next week. We got lucky, plain and simple. This is why, you NEVER walk out on a company during its busy season, it can turn the whole operation upside down, espically in a smaller company like ours. Lesson to myself in all this, never trust the word of a guy with 5000 hours in the right seat of a Dash7, cause first chance they get, no matter what promises they make you when your hiring them, they`ll bail for bigger tin, and less responsibility with 3 bars. Hope the "career co-pilot" thing works out for you dipsh*t.
Its been a crappy day, signing off. Thanks again to everyone.
Fly safe all.
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Hey bug
So a guy quit on you...big deal. Sounds like he got a better gig and did what was right for him. I bet my left one that the $$ was WAYYYY better than the peanuts he got for fire work. It's business bub, no need to come on here and piss and moan, airing your dirty laundry.
Makes you and your company look like a joke.
It Reeeeeeks
Makes you and your company look like a joke.
It Reeeeeeks
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flyinthebug
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Capt Stinky... You are probably right in regards to not needing to air dirty laundry on here. I`ll give you that, but, if you feel that a pilot leaving in mid season, and leaving the company (ANY company) hung out to dry and that its just "business", well, thats why this industry is in the state its in.. and we wonder why the bigger carriers need 10K upfront... to avoid this exact thing. People will bail, but you expect more from Professional pilots, wouldnt you think? That said, kudos to you for pointing out that my disappointment in this pilot, doesnt need to be aired on the net.
Fly safe., Cheers.
Fly safe., Cheers.
FITB
And I suppose if slow times hit, you would have kept this pilot working?? Or would you have laid him off at the first opportunity??? A lot of people have been screwed the other way too.. Sometimes loyalty starts from the company.. Never be pissed at someone bettering themselves. Going from a Seneca to F/O on a -7 is a big step UP..... I'm sure most people would leap at the chance!! If this person had done a sideways move mid-season, well, then you might have cause to be pissed, oh, unless it was for better money, better conditions, better schedule.. etc. etc.
Make any sense??
And I suppose if slow times hit, you would have kept this pilot working?? Or would you have laid him off at the first opportunity??? A lot of people have been screwed the other way too.. Sometimes loyalty starts from the company.. Never be pissed at someone bettering themselves. Going from a Seneca to F/O on a -7 is a big step UP..... I'm sure most people would leap at the chance!! If this person had done a sideways move mid-season, well, then you might have cause to be pissed, oh, unless it was for better money, better conditions, better schedule.. etc. etc.
Make any sense??
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disagree
I think It should be air AND with first and last name, that way IF it happened like you said, we all know who he IS and if it did not, he will say something, HOWEVER
If a person (at least me) is fairly well paid and treated, will not leave an operator hanging, even to better greener pastures and if I do(everyone with more than the first job had) I will make sure I have a replacement.
I am a firm beliver that when something is wrong it should be air and corrected not cover and gossip....
PS: May be is just me
If a person (at least me) is fairly well paid and treated, will not leave an operator hanging, even to better greener pastures and if I do(everyone with more than the first job had) I will make sure I have a replacement.
I am a firm beliver that when something is wrong it should be air and corrected not cover and gossip....
PS: May be is just me
DITTO ALLWAYS MOVING
I feel that if you take a job you are excepting every thing about it and making a commitment to your-self your career and the employer. You have allready said (by takeing the job) that the money is good the conditions are fine and the schedule is workable.
Now to get up and quit because of something turning bad during the year fine quit but don't go the cowardly way by looking for something else while still working there, if it was that bad you should have left from the first sign and said what you are thinking and you need to leave and what the conflict is.
Now if this person was just sitting there doing their job and a long came this oppertunity it maybe hard to turn down but if you talked to both employers to work something out an extra week here and dont start for a week there, or even say I cant leave them this way and hopefuly in the future I can get with you. These responses would be more beneficicial to your career seeing the new employer would see your good moral character and your old employer would have nothing but great things to say about you. This person is obviously liked by the new company so I'm sure there would have been a job for them at the next opening.
But we could all say what should have been done and what shouldn't have been done who knows what the story is and maybe it was some snott nose 19yr old kid $%it we'd expect the situation from one of them wouldn't we???
Now to get up and quit because of something turning bad during the year fine quit but don't go the cowardly way by looking for something else while still working there, if it was that bad you should have left from the first sign and said what you are thinking and you need to leave and what the conflict is.
Now if this person was just sitting there doing their job and a long came this oppertunity it maybe hard to turn down but if you talked to both employers to work something out an extra week here and dont start for a week there, or even say I cant leave them this way and hopefuly in the future I can get with you. These responses would be more beneficicial to your career seeing the new employer would see your good moral character and your old employer would have nothing but great things to say about you. This person is obviously liked by the new company so I'm sure there would have been a job for them at the next opening.
But we could all say what should have been done and what shouldn't have been done who knows what the story is and maybe it was some snott nose 19yr old kid $%it we'd expect the situation from one of them wouldn't we???
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So, Fly the Bug posts a legitimate job opportunity here. Then he goes further and follows up with who got the job and why.
This is a problem how???
If it contians his opinion on pilots "bailing" in the midst of the season, I think those are fair. People sure seem to feel free to complain about other things on this forum.
As far as guys leaving in mid season that depends on:
-what was negotiated
-if nothing was negotiated, 2 weeks notice
If the guy said he would stay the season, then he's obligated to do that, unless the conduct of his employer is illegal or totally contrary to what the employer promissed.
It's a crapshoot every spring if you work seasonal or contract. You take your best shot, and if you get a better offer, nothing you can do about it except explain to the new emplyer that you have obligations. I've done that twice now and in each case I later got a really good job with the new employer at a later date. Co-incidence...I don't think so.
This is a problem how???
If it contians his opinion on pilots "bailing" in the midst of the season, I think those are fair. People sure seem to feel free to complain about other things on this forum.
As far as guys leaving in mid season that depends on:
-what was negotiated
-if nothing was negotiated, 2 weeks notice
If the guy said he would stay the season, then he's obligated to do that, unless the conduct of his employer is illegal or totally contrary to what the employer promissed.
It's a crapshoot every spring if you work seasonal or contract. You take your best shot, and if you get a better offer, nothing you can do about it except explain to the new emplyer that you have obligations. I've done that twice now and in each case I later got a really good job with the new employer at a later date. Co-incidence...I don't think so.
Call me crazy, but I don't think someone flying a Seneca in the left seat is really a "Captain".
As if, boys. Wear those epaulettes with pride through the Timmy's drive- thru, because the looks of adoration are well worth it. Me, I had full garb on at all times at the Skydive Club when Captain duties on the 182 called; it is the professional way to fly, and the pax love it when you make the inflight PA before dumping them out at FL090! I always liked the solemn salute I gave, crisply touching my blade-sharp hand to the corner of my glinting aviator-shades ($49.99 at Aviation World) before pointing the finger at them for the patented trigger-pull. "Don't worry if you're a 'diver, because your Captain today is the 'driver!" (That was my slogan for years, and worked EXTREMELY well in the local watering holes with the ladies)
So never mind the naysayers, ye PIC's of smaller aircraft! Sport the dress trou, the bulging flight bag, and of course, the massive timepiece. Wear those stripes with pride: for me, each one represented 100 hours of hard-fought flight time. That's 800 hours total for those of you not good with math.
Fly her hard, and put her back in the barn wet!
Henri
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You're right, he's actually still a sailor.3Green wrote:Call me crazy, but I don't think someone flying a Seneca in the left seat is really a "Captain".
What difference does it make anyhow??? If it makes the passengers feel better or it helps you get things done, wear the blue or white shirt and the epaulettes. By the same token, why do some small companies paint their airplanes all in the same paint scheme???
“If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it.”
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heres an idea
hire more than one pilot and dont try and get blood from a stone......you did it to yourself. Dont be cheap....there are lots of people who need work, maybe 5k was a bit 'overqualified'? Maybe that 1500TT resume would have been a better bet.
Increasingly people are becoming more and more pathetic making un-intelligent posts just to boost their total post count. Comments from inexperienced hot heads such as that passenger are just further examples of how pitiful some discussions become.
This thread had long been dormant, yet this poster felt the need to slam me. Tango, this isn't a school yard. Grow the hell up.
This thread had long been dormant, yet this poster felt the need to slam me. Tango, this isn't a school yard. Grow the hell up.
The way I break it down in my head (I'm sure this will ruffle some feathers):
Seminole/Seneca/Aztec/Baron/C310, etc. = The Pilot
Navajo/400 series Cessna/Caravan/Islander, etc. = The Pilot & Co-Pilot
Pilatus/King Air/MU2/Cheyenne/Conquest = The Pilot & Co-Pilot (I can understand Captain and First Officer...still sounds a bit odd to me though)
B1900/Metro/HS/Saab/Dash7 or 8, etc. = Captain & First Officer
That's just the way I envision it...I'm not saying that is the way it should be. I have had passengers ask though, "do we still call you Captain on this?"...King Air.
Am I waaay off base? Lemme know.
Seminole/Seneca/Aztec/Baron/C310, etc. = The Pilot
Navajo/400 series Cessna/Caravan/Islander, etc. = The Pilot & Co-Pilot
Pilatus/King Air/MU2/Cheyenne/Conquest = The Pilot & Co-Pilot (I can understand Captain and First Officer...still sounds a bit odd to me though)
B1900/Metro/HS/Saab/Dash7 or 8, etc. = Captain & First Officer
That's just the way I envision it...I'm not saying that is the way it should be. I have had passengers ask though, "do we still call you Captain on this?"...King Air.
Am I waaay off base? Lemme know.
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Always Moving
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CAL!
You in the Islinder (or a C150) and I put the scenario and we will see if it is TOO simple
I think that if they are flown with pax, they all should be flow with 2 crew
You in the Islinder (or a C150) and I put the scenario and we will see if it is TOO simple
I think that if they are flown with pax, they all should be flow with 2 crew
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ScudRunner
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I had the hr girl from transwest call me up this spring and ask me if I would be interested in being a "captain on their 185" and a part time DH2 captain. That wasn’t the funniest part of the call either, there is a three stage interview at tranny for the captaincy of a 185 with the last 2 interviews being in person in sask and the last interview being in front of a panel of transwest personnel. That’s 2 separate non reimbursable trips to Sask! .I took another job the next day over the phone. She never did phone back; the laughing at the beginning of the call probably got me turfed.
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185 Capt.!
neechi,
was there a sim ride involved in the interview process as well??!!
was there a sim ride involved in the interview process as well??!!
