Toronto Airways.
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Toronto Airways.
Hello everyone. Can anyone give me some info about training at Toronto Airways please? Is it a good FTU? Bad?
Any info will be much appreciated.
Thanks
T01
Any info will be much appreciated.
Thanks
T01
Timing is everything.
As with any flight school - it depends on which instructor you fly with. Some are good some not so good. Good things - CFI is a great guy, busy airport so lots of good experiences in a controlled environment, TC on site, flight test examiners on site, no ferry. Bad points - older aircraft, Toronto prices, stressful learning environmet on busy days (controllers while excellent can lose their temper), Druxy's is nasty, a lot of HUGE aviation nerds seem to hang out there and talk about how great they piloted their C-150 in a 2 knot cross wind.
LOL, thanks tequesta. I was considering T.A for my Multi Engine Rating, since they operate the good old Seminole (cheaper than the Aztec) and I live 8 clicks from Buttonville. Don't know if I would do my CPL there, it all depends how I like this place.
Cheers
T01
Cheers
T01
Timing is everything.
Call Durham Flight Center their Aztruck is cheaper than the Seminole at Buttonhole. Also you can get a good class one instructor for about 20 dollars per hour cheaper. Worth the drive to YOO if you ask me.
Putting money into aviation is like wiping before you poop....it just don't make sense!
Canadian Flyers at Markham operate an inexpensive Seminole($220), and they are close to Buttonville. They will rent it to you solo, and the aerodrome is uncontrolled so you don't spend much time on the ground watching the Hobbs turn. I finished my last student out of Markham in about 7hrs.
You asked about TAL. First I do not work for them or any other flying school. TAL has an enthusiastic group of instructors most are good at what they do. I do know that they are trying to get better and the CFI is working hard at improving the school. Why don't you go to the school and talk to him. You will be plesantly surprised at his attitude. Also anybody who is underpay there class one does not deserve the business.
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Who said anything about the class one being underpaid? I just said the school costs for the class one were 20 dollars cheaper per hour. How much does a class one make 24 per hour? It's the cut the school takes that adds the cost, the class one still gets paid going rate! Why pay a flight school $65.00 per hour if the guy is still only getting $24.00?
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For N2 a class one makes up to $40.00 per hour unless he is so stupid that he allows himself to get paid less. AS for the Guy in KZ selling PA31 PPC's he is out of business there was a lock on his propeller and he moved out last week. MCRIT the other operation that uses a C310 and a PA31 pays there Co Pilots ( not much ) but better than giving away free ground briefings as an instructor. If anybody wants to here the real scope on this PM me.
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What flight school pays their class one $40.00 per hour? None of the class ones that I know make that kind of coin.
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Right Seat, he said a flight school paying a class one $40.00 per hour of which I know none that pay that kind of coin. Perhaps freelance you can but I doubt any flight school would pay that. Most I ever paid for a class one freelance was $30.00 and that was tax free money for him.
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Sorry, I didn't check that far back, I thought we were talking about class 1s in general. In that case I'd have to agree that usually a class 1 in a flight school wouldn't be paid that much. But going back to freelance, I believe if the instructor had significant actual IFR experience and real commercial operation experience, they would easily be worth $40 or $50 per hour. However this experience is very rare amongst Canadian Instructors.
Still looking for a name of a school that pays their class one 40 per hour.
Tango you asked is a good place to do your multi, yes and no. It's an alright school, not the best but certainly not the worst.
I am not an instructor so I have no personal interest in TAL's financial gains by directing someone there.
Tango you asked is a good place to do your multi, yes and no. It's an alright school, not the best but certainly not the worst.
I am not an instructor so I have no personal interest in TAL's financial gains by directing someone there.
Putting money into aviation is like wiping before you poop....it just don't make sense!