THE OFFICIAL WORLD CUP THREAD!!!!!

gr8gazu · Post by **gr8gazu** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 7:18 pm

B-777 wrote:
France 2 portugal 1
Germany 3 italy 1
Agreed

final France 2 Germany 0
Nope GDR 1 FRA 0

England sucked....Rooney did not do much, and what's is name? Frank Lampard sucked big time,
I think you will be very hard pressed to find an opposing opinion...

Cristiano Ronaldo and Zinedine Zidane...Ribery will kick ass too...

I am not so sure, none of the above (including Rooney and Lampard) have played to their demonstrated capability.

... · Post by **...** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 7:27 pm

gr8gazu wrote:
I am not so sure, none of the above (including Rooney and Lampard) have played to their demonstrated capability.

I'm impressed with Zizou (Zidane) he's been outstanding and solid in a quiet way.

That guy is all class and he's a nice guy as well.

gr8gazu · Post by **gr8gazu** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:08 am

I am Birddog wrote:
gr8gazu wrote:
I am not so sure, none of the above (including Rooney and Lampard) have played to their demonstrated capability.
Zizou, solid in a quiet way.

That guy is all class and he's a nice guy as well.

Agreed, solid-yes, but he is capable of better...

Naughty Catholic · Post by **Naughty Catholic** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:48 am

awwww i feel so bad that england lost

Now i believe the portuguese boat is a head now???? hope France is easy on us

BIRDDOG: Love the pic w/ figo, but i swear im in love w/ Ricardo

gr8gazu · Post by **gr8gazu** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:10 am

I am actually in the denial stage now so my argument is.."How can a zero sum game be a loss or victory for either team? Penalty shots is no indication of the better team in any sport. It is just a means of elimination.
I like to think that being a man short for an hour, England did more with less!

Clearly England didn't play to their ability and with the mounting injuries, they went about as far as they could.

Jeremy Kent · Post by **Jeremy Kent** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:43 pm

Italy 2 Germany 0!!

What a game! Man I was biting my nails the whole time! I wish that Germany'd pulled it off, but I thoroughly enjoyed the match! Gut gespielt, Deutschland!!

laticsdave · Post by **laticsdave** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:15 pm

Hmmmm..... After reading this, if those clubs that are charged are found guilty, in addition to relegation and point deductions, a suitable punishment should be the stripping of any medals/trophies that the Italian national team "win" in the current world cup. Such a drastic measure might be enough to ensure other countries F.A.'s don't allow such a high level of "alledged" corruption to exist. After all, this punishment would affect the nation and all it's players/clubs, not just those clubs charged.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/footbal ... 45210.stm]

Relegation call for Italian four

Former Juve supremo Moggi has stayed away from the trial so far
The Italian Football Federation's prosecutor has called for all four clubs at the centre of the match-fixing scandal to be thrown out of Serie A.
Stefano Palazzi called for Juventus to drop two divisions and for AC Milan, Fiorentina and Lazio to drop one.

He also asked for points penalties to be imposed and that Juve's 2005 and 2006 titles be stripped from the club.

And on a bad day for Juve, coach Fabio Capello resigned, paving the way for a return to Spanish giants Real Madrid.

Juve's shares dived on the Milan stock market following Palazzi's comments.

Earlier on Tuesday, the third day of Italy's biggest sports trial, Italian Football Federation (FIGC) official Paolo Bergamo resigned.

Bergamo is one of two officials under suspicion involved in the allocation of referees - his lawyer unsuccessfully argued he was now no longer liable to be tried by a sports tribunal.

MATCH-FIXING PROBE TIMELINE
4 May: Intercepted phone conversations between Juve's Luciano Moggi and Pierluigi Pairetto, a former member of the federation's refereeing commission, published
8 May: FIGC president Franco Carraro resigns
11 May: FIGC vice-president Innocenzo Mazzini and entire Juve board resign
14 May: Juve win title - general manager Luciano Moggi quits
29 June: Football tribunal begins
The trial was initially suspended on Thursday and proceedings were again held up on Monday by another round of arguments over legal procedure.

The sensational events in Rome are taking place as Italy's national team prepare for their World Cup semi-final against Germany.

Thirteen players in the 23-strong Italian squad, including five from Juve, are from the four accused clubs.

The tribunal has been scheduled to run during the remainder of the tournament in Germany and is due to deliver its verdicts before the World Cup final on 9 July.

Lawyers representing five Serie B teams, who hope to be promoted if the squads are relegated, also want to give evidence.

Judges delayed the case so the representatives of Bologna, Lecce, Treviso, Brescia and Messina could have time to prepare.

Football-mad Italy has been gripped by the scandal since it broke in May.

All kinds of things go on in football - what I'm saying is that this is an environment in which you have to protect yourself

Antonio Giraudo
Former Juve chief executive
It followed the publication of intercepted telephone conversations in which former Juventus general manager Luciano Moggi discussed refereeing appointments with senior FIGC officials during the 2004-05 season.

Other officials on trial include Milan vice president Adriano Galliani, Fiorentina owner Diego Della Valle and Lazio President Claudio Lotito. All have denied any wrongdoing.

Chief judge Cesare Ruperto opened the trial on Thursday by reading out the names of the accused to check if they were present.

Moggi, who resigned after Juve claimed their 29th "scudetto" in May, did not attend, while Galliani, the highest-ranking Milan official involved, sat in the first row of the improvised courtroom.

Former Juve chief executive Antonio Giraudo was one of the first to speak on Tuesday.

"All kinds of things go on in football: people give Rolexes to referees, people fix the accounts. What I'm saying is that this is an environment in which you have to protect yourself," he said.

Palazzi asked for Giraudo to be handed a five-year ban plus a 5,000 euro (£3,500) fine for every instance of sporting fraud.

Juve fans show their support outside Pessotto's hospital in Turin
He asked for the same punishment for Moggi, brothers Diego and Andrea Della Valle, the owner and president of Fiorentina, and for Claudio Lotito, the chairman of Lazio.

But former prime minister Silvio Berlusconi, the billionaire who owns AC Milan, said he was "indignant" at the prosecutor's request to relegate his club and said Milan should be handed Juve's last two titles if the Turin team were found guilty.

"Milan have never had refereeing favours, on the contrary, they've been victims of refereeing favours in favour of other clubs," he said.

Meanwhile, former Juve midfielder Gianluca Pessotto - who is not implicated in the scandal - is recovering in hospital after falling from a second-floor window at the club's headquarters.

Pessotto, who was appointed team manager in the wake of the scandal, is in a serious but stable condition.

Eight referees face charges, including Massimo de Santis, who had been set to officiate at the World Cup but was withdrawn after being named in the investigation.

The FIGC, which appointed the tribunal, said it expects to have completed its work before 9 July, with appeals due to be heard by 20 July.

That gives the FIGC time before a deadline of 27 July to submit the names of teams to compete in next season's Champions League and Uefa Cup competitions.

If they were relegated, Juventus, AC Milan and Fiorentina would miss the Champions League and Lazio the Uefa Cup.

If they were only docked points next season, they would still be able to compete.

The football trial is not a criminal proceeding, but prosecutors in Naples, Rome, Parma and Turin have launched separate investigations which could lead to criminal charges against some of those accused in the tribunal.

p.s. Roonie is a cunt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hazatude · Post by **hazatude** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:25 pm

The Italians in YHM are going crazy! They should go home and wash their driveways.

... · Post by **...** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:07 pm

hazatude wrote:The Italians in YHM are going crazy! They should go home and wash their driveways.

I pulled up in my truck and remarked to a group of Italian supporters in a pick up truck with their large flags waving in the air....

"So...did Ireland win?!"

It's a good thing my lane was open...

TG · Post by TG » Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:36 pm

F@ck! Italy totally destroyed Germany within a minute.

... · Post by **...** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:22 pm

laticsdave wrote:
p.s. Roonie is a cunt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't be so hard on the boy. He's only 20 and emotionally charged, I'm sure he was surprised when his club teammate and friend C.Ronaldo made a federal case of Rooney's foul. What happens on the field should stay on the field. A hard lesson learned.

I'm sure it will be a source of tension when they play together for Manchester United this fall. Interesting to watch. I wonder what the English papers are saying? I hope they won't be so hard on the kid in England...he's just 20 years old.

I think the ref was going to give Rooney just a yellow card but when he pushed Ronaldo...double carded himwith a red...who knows?

Globe and Mail

Rooney insists he didn't deserve red card
Associated Press

London — In his first public comments since being sent off against Portugal at the World Cup, England star Wayne Rooney says he was "gobsmacked" when referee Horacio Elizondo produced a red card.

The incident occurred in the 62nd minute when Rooney broke through two tacklers, then stomped on the prone Carvalho's groin. England went on to lose the quarter-final in a penalty shootout.

"I remember the incident clearly and have seen it several times since on TV," the Manchester United striker said in a statement. "I am of the same opinion now as I was at the time, that what happened didn't warrant a red card. If anything I feel we should have had a free kick for the fouls committed on me during the same incident.

"I want to say absolutely categorically I did not intentionally put my foot down on Ricardo Carvalho. He slid in from behind me and unfortunately ended up in a position where my foot was inevitably going to end up as I kept my balance. That's all there was to it. From what I've seen in the World Cup, most players would have gone to ground at the slightest contact but my only thought then was to keep possession for England."

Portuguese winger Cristiano Ronaldo ran up to the referee to protest Rooney's actions, getting a shove from his United teammate in the process.

"When the referee produced the red card I was amazed, gobsmacked," Rooney said. "I bear no ill feeling to Cristiano (Ronaldo) but I am disappointed he chose to get involved. I suppose I do, though, have to remember on that particular occasion we were not teammates."

Ronaldo, who was caught winking to the Portugal bench after Rooney was ejected, denied a rift between the two.

"Dreadful things have been said about me and my teammate and friend Rooney," Ronaldo said in a column on his agent's website, http://www.gestifute.com.

"There is no problem at all between me and Rooney. I insist: no problem at all. At the end of the game, we exchanged a series of text messages just as we had on the day before. This reinforces that I have a fine relationship with Rooney."

British papers reported the Ronaldo and Rooney statements and text messages appear to be an attempt at a peace bid brokered by United manager Sir Alex Ferguson.
But The Sun reported that Rooney still is in no mood to make up, saying he had confided to teammates the only way he would like "to bury the hatchet is in Ronaldo's head."

Elizondo, speaking to The Times, said he sent off Rooney for lashing out with his boot and catching the defender in the groin, not for the 20-year-old's push on Ronaldo.

"It was violent play and therefore he got a red card," the Argentine official said in Frankfurt.

Said Rooney: "If you ask any player and indeed almost any fan, they will tell you that I am straight and honest in the way I play."

The referee said Ronaldo had not played a part in the decision to show the red card.

"People can say what they want, but this had absolutely no influence," Elizondo (ref) said. "For me it was a clear red card, so I didn't react to the Portuguese players. There was pushing and shoving on both sides, but for me it wasn't a reason to caution anybody."

The head of England's Professional Footballers' Association condemned Ronaldo's actions.

"It's always disappointing to see players from one team looking to get players from another sent off, be it the Premier League, be it the Football League, be it a World Cup," chief executive Gordon Taylor told Sky Sports News. "But it's doubly disappointing when they are colleagues from the same club side. From my point of view, that was hard to stomach."

Ronaldo had earlier talked of moving to Real Madrid, but it appears that door has closed after Juan Miguel Villar Mir, who had promised to lure the Portugal winger there, lost the election for Real president.

B-777 · Post by **B-777** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:57 pm

allez les bleus......

... · Post by **...** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:04 pm

Congratulations France!!! I hope you win in the finals.

Portugal France
5 Shots on Goal 4
12 Shots 5
18 Fouls 11
8 Corner Kicks 3
1 Free Kicks 0
4 Offsides 0
0 Own Goals 0
1 Yellow Cards 1
0 Red Cards 0
59% Ball Possession 41%

Flying Low · Post by **Flying Low** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:45 pm

OK...maybe I missed something. How do you get a total of 29 fouls and only one free kick?

One Step Beyond · Post by **One Step Beyond** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:44 pm

I think Rooney and Ronaldo have kissed and made up...

hazatude · Post by **hazatude** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:15 pm

I have taped the Portugal vs. France game to use as a sleep aid at a later date.

I have watched NHL arena blackout delays more exciting than that. Oh well...I guess if you were raised with it...

TG · Post by TG » Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:58 pm

hazatude wrote:...I guess if you were raised with it...

Exactly! you only need a

and a flat field and you can even play it with the less expensive equipement you can find.
Half naked and bare foot.

I know, hard to do so here in winter!

"Allez les bleus"

... · Post by **...** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:31 pm

Flying Low wrote:OK...maybe I missed something. How do you get a total of 29 fouls and only one free kick?

It means 1 penalty kick against Portugal.

BREAKBREAK------------------------------------------------------------------------

Images tonight from Paris.

Two of the greatest ambassadors of the Beautiful Game.

... · Post by **...** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:11 am

This coming Sunday EVERYONE has to send out some positive energy for France TO WIN the World Cup OVER Italy.

Unless you footbal/soccer fans in the Golden Horseshoe area of Ontario are willing to endure...

1. Four years of Italian bragging rights

2. Honking cars with massive Italy flags blocking your 'blind spot' (or even forward traffic viewing)
3. White dress shoes.

Now...I wished England would have won...

Naughty Catholic · Post by **Naughty Catholic** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:19 am

Até logo portugal

but on a positive note i hope france wins, Italians are crazy and i really do wanna sleep at night ( live near A LOT of italians)

2R · Post by 2R » Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:29 am

It would be nice if we could get a Canadian team ready for the next World Cup .
If we could get FIFA to change some of the rules for our benefit.
Say - Play on frozen pitches
-Wear shoes with long blades on them instead of cleats
-make the ball smaller and flat and black and of solid rubber
-Use of sticks to move the new small black puck -I mean ball
This will make it easier for us to win

PITA · Post by **PITA** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:42 am

We tried that last winter and failed horribly.

Jeremy Kent · Post by **Jeremy Kent** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:14 am

I am Birddog wrote:This coming Sunday EVERYONE has to send out some positive energy for France TO WIN the World Cup OVER Italy.

...plus they took out Germany!!

qwert · Post by **qwert** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:01 pm

I am Birddog wrote:This coming Sunday EVERYONE has to send out some positive energy for France TO WIN the World Cup OVER Italy.

Unless you footbal/soccer fans in the Golden Horseshoe area of Ontario are willing to endure...

1. Four years of Italian bragging rights
2. Honking cars with massive Italy flags blocking your 'blind spot' (or even forward traffic viewing)
3. White dress shoes.

Now...I wished England would have won...

You white trash Canadian crackers

Italians have culture and know how to party. Canadians drink beer. THATS IT. Italy will take the cup. No one has yet to put a ball into the italian net. HMMMM i think thats talent, not luck. France is good but not that good. If they do take the cup from italy it will be out of pure frickin luck. Like the penalty in the Portugal Game yesterday. PURE LUCK...

By the way, Protugal is much fucking worse with the flags and the noise.

Go back to your beer drinking and watching Baseball you crackers and leave the best team and sport to the people who actually watch it beyond the WORLD CUP.

gr8gazu · Post by **gr8gazu** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:09 pm

qwert wrote:
I am Birddog wrote:This coming Sunday EVERYONE has to send out some positive energy for France TO WIN the World Cup OVER Italy.

Unless you footbal/soccer fans in the Golden Horseshoe area of Ontario are willing to endure...

1. Four years of Italian bragging rights
2. Honking cars with massive Italy flags blocking your 'blind spot' (or even forward traffic viewing)
3. White dress shoes.

Now...I wished England would have won...

You white trash Canadian crackers

Italians have culture and know how to party. Canadians drink beer. THATS IT. Italy will take the cup. No one has yet to put a ball into the italian net. HMMMM i think thats talent, not luck. France is good but not that good. If they do take the cup from italy it will be out of pure frickin luck. Like the penalty in the Portugal Game yesterday. PURE LUCK...

By the way, Protugal is much fucking worse with the flags and the noise.

Go back to your beer drinking and watching Baseball you crackers and leave the best team and sport to the people who actually watch it beyond the WORLD CUP.

OK you know it all gold chain garlic burning IROC driver.

I'll go back to watching football when the EPL flashes up for another great season!

BTW, Shave your mustache! You are starting to look like your mother.