Holy Crosswind

Snowgoose · Post by **Snowgoose** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:17 am

Beauty

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1071081/L/

Donald · Post by **Donald** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:37 am

Nice pic.

Too bad there's no wind sock in the background.

Hard to see any deflection in the controls either, could just be the angle though.

. ._ · Post by **. ._** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:17 am

SLICK!

Flying Low · Post by **Flying Low** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:23 pm

Can't see the ailerons but there is definately a boot full of left rudder in there!

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:49 am

It's a good thing neither of the above occurred in Canada, because a charge under CAR 602.01 would certainly be forthcoming, with at least a year's licence suspension

. ._ · Post by **. ._** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:44 am

Yeah, that Hoover is pretty darned good. I saw him work his magic at the London Airshow when I was a kid. The Commander makes a nice WHOOSH when it goes by with no engines. And you could hear it, because not a person was talking during his performance. COOL!

-istp

helijason · Post by **helijason** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:49 pm

here is a good video of some jumbos landing in serious crosswinds, the last couple look like they are comeing in sideways

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogalle ... ptions.wmv

p.s. sorry about the music I didnt choose it

Lurch · Post by **Lurch** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:51 pm

helijason wrote:here is a good video of some jumbos landing in serious crosswinds, the last couple look like they are comeing in sideways

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogalle ... ptions.wmv

p.s. sorry about the music I didnt choose it

Odd I teach my students to use a side slip for X-Wind LDGs.

Sadley I thought they would use Top Gun Music I was just hoping it was Kenny G

Justwannafly · Post by **Justwannafly** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:49 pm

thx for finding me my next walpaper goose

tintin42 · Post by **tintin42** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:09 am

While we are on that subject, what is the highest crosswind component you landed in and in what type of aircraft?

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:28 am

Gosh, the guys out west have probably landed in some ferocious crosswinds, but an interesting one that sticks in my mind, was about 20 years ago. A powerful cold front had blown through, resulting in a 90 degree crosswind of 25 knots gusting 40 knots.

So I did what any sensible young pilot would do - I took off in it, in my Maule M4-210C. The takeoff, with the prop slipstream over the tail, was uneventful. However, the landing was quite interesting. I couldn't reduce power - I could not stop it from weathervaning. I had to add power to increase rudder effectiveness to stay straight, so I could not slow down.

After a couple of attempts and variations (wheel landings, 3-point) I just landed on the north-south runway. It was interesting to learn what the true crosswind limits were,.

Oh yeah, when I got checked out doing Pitts landings in California, years ago, the crosswind component was in excess of that demonstrated in the manual, which of course is not limiting. No biggie.

After a while you stop giving a sh1t about the wind - just do what it takes to put it down, within the aerodynamic limitations. Frankly turbulence and wind shear is much more interesting to me than crosswind component.

Most of the time, people exceed their own personal limits of skill, long before you exceed the equipment's aerodynamic and physical limitations. Just watch Bob Hoover fly sometime.

Strong winds are fun. Just the other day, there was a howling wind right down the runway, so I took off in the Citabria, and tried to fly backwards down the runway. I could almost hover, motionless with respect to the ground, but I couldn't go backwards. Gotta wait for a day with a stronger wind, I guess.

... · Post by **...** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:07 pm

Flying Low wrote:Can't see the ailerons but there is definately a boot full of left rudder in there!

A boot full? I'm having a hard time seeing the rudder in any deflection...
I only see the rudder trim tabs in what seems to be deflecting.
You're right about the ailerons. I can't see them them either not ever
the 'hinges' below show any sign of movement. which leads me to
believe....

I think that pic is a fraud.

HavaJava · Post by **HavaJava** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:51 pm

Hey Hedley,

I did a circuit in a C172 while on a constant heading the entire time. Took off, climbed to 1000 feet, pegged the ASI and flew backwards about a mile and then landed again...

Probably not a TC approved circuit!

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:54 pm

I did a circuit in a C172 while on a constant heading the entire time

Cool! You did not break any regulations - CAR 602.96(3) applies. For example, if standard left traffic, you did not turn right. If it was right traffic as per CFS, you did not turn left.

There is no legal requirement to fly on the front side of the power curve below 2,000 AGL, modulo my old friend CAR 602.01