Vid of Northwest DC-9 A319 collision at KMSP

abc xyz · Post by **abc xyz** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:18 am

http://kstp.dayport.com/viewer/viewerpa ... _ID=167944

grimey · Post by **grimey** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:32 am

anyone got another version? firefox seems to hate the player.

helijason · Post by **helijason** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:38 pm

Man that would have been scary for the pilots on the smaller plane the way the wing went right through the cockpit. Its amazing they werent injured.

. ._ · Post by **. ._** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:13 pm

grimey wrote:anyone got another version? firefox seems to hate the player.

Yeah, I hate that. Just open up Explorer, and thank Bill Gates for your inconvenience.

-istp

N2 · Post by N2 » Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:17 pm

Not in this life time! Then again as long as there are products like Microsoft around us techies will have job security!

Pilatusable · Post by **Pilatusable** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:30 pm

Wow! Good thing Airbuses have a 5-Star rear end crash rating.

Flying Low · Post by **Flying Low** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:52 pm

Wow...and I think Toronto drivers are bad!

Dust Devil · Post by **Dust Devil** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:36 pm

N2 wrote:Not in this life time! Then again as long as there are products like Microsoft around us techies will have job security!

Your blaming microsoft for the fact that firefox is a piece of shit?

Aight!

grimey · Post by **grimey** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:40 pm

How does not fully supporting a proprietary security hole like activeX make firefox a piece of shit?

low wing2220 · Post by **low wing2220** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:06 pm

No Thrust Reverse on a DC-9 ?????? VERY ODD...

co-joe · Post by **co-joe** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:23 pm

grimey wrote:How does not fully supporting a proprietary security hole like activeX make firefox a piece of shit?

Wow that's quite the fender bender. It's wierd using IE again. It's been soo long...I had to look all over for the activate icon since I deleted it soo long ago.

rigpiggy · Post by **rigpiggy** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:56 am

they had previously reported a hydraulics problem. no hydraulics/no brakes/steering or reverse. shut them down, wait for impact.

ch135146 · Post by **ch135146** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:18 am

Aircraft I flew in the past with hydraulics: If you had problems in flight, you landed and shut down on the runway.

Also is there not an emergency braking system on that type?

linecrew · Post by **linecrew** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:04 am

ch135146 wrote:Aircraft I flew in the past with hydraulics: If you had problems in flight, you landed and shut down on the runway.

Here's an exerpt from the NTSB report. They had a partial loss initally then I guess lost it all after the landing.

N763NC experienced a reported loss of right hydraulic system fluid quantity during a climb to cruise from CMH. The flight continued to MSP where a landing was made without incident. The flight then taxied under its own power to gate G10 where it stopped and awaited a tow into the gate while N368NB was being pushed back by a tug. N763NC then moved forward and impacted the right wing of N368NB. Both airplanes were evacuated using N763NC's rear airstair door and N368NB's front left slide.

Troubleshot · Post by **Troubleshot** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:11 am

The worst part of that story is poor ol' NW only had 38 people on that 319....yikes!

ei ei owe · Post by **ei ei owe** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:23 am

Somebody's gonna get fired!!! And today it's not me!

ch135146 · Post by **ch135146** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:37 am

We'll have to wait for the final report, but I did find this unsubstantiated post on another forum (it was written 13/5/05, three days after the event.)

"Incident is pilot error.
DC9 had a right hydraulic system failure in flight. Plane landed without trouble using left hydraulic system. After landing pilot called for tow, but then elected to taxi to gate. During Taxi Capt shut down left engine. Big mistake.
Shutting down the left engine shut down the left hydraulic system. Now both the right and left hydraulic systems were inop. When the Capt realized he had no steering and brakes, he tried to stop the aircraft using the right engine thrust reverser. Well as every DC9 pilot knows (or should know), the right thrust reverser is powered by the hydraulic system. As the pilot panicked, he continued to pull more thrust reverse on the right throttle. The engine out put increased but the thrust reverser was not deployed. The aircraft developed 90% forward thrust pushing it off to the left and into the parked A320. Maintenance personnel had to cut the pilot out as the upper cockpit was pushed down. Jet fuel everywear in the cockpit.
NWA pilots union is already working on a cover up for the story.
So much for safety."

I'm adding it here only for interest's sake. I don't have an opinion - my wife took it.

Dust Devil · Post by **Dust Devil** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:01 am

grimey wrote:How does not fully supporting a proprietary security hole like activeX make firefox a piece of shit?

I don't know. All i know is firefox crashes on me about 10 times a day. I've never had a problem with IE nor have I had a "blue screen of death" since switching to xp so many years ago.

Walker · Post by **Walker** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:26 am

Dust Devil wrote:
grimey wrote:How does not fully supporting a proprietary security hole like activeX make firefox a piece of shit?
I don't know. All i know is firefox crashes on me about 10 times a day. I've never had a problem with IE nor have I had a "blue screen of death" since switching to xp so many years ago.

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