Wait Times

bear1 · Post by **bear1** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:41 am

Hello all

I know this has been posted before, however just wondering if anything has changed lately in the wait time for a letter from AC. If you get a letter within the first 3 weeks or so that is usually a bad sign, yes ? Just wondering what the other experiences have been lately, ie like after 5 weeks with nothing is this good or bad sign ? Any info as usual would be great.

Thanks in advance

Front. · Post by **Front.** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:08 am

i don't know as i am not in that stage yet, but my guess is that it doesn't matter if you get the letter in 3 weeks or in 3 months. If they don't want you, they can either tell you right away, or let you suffer for quite some time before sending that PFO out

It's a little too early for me to say this too probably, but if you don't get accepted, don't really take it too hard on your self eh, work at it and try again. Then again, there are other airlines, but sure, AC is the one a lot want to go to.

My thought is, if you don't get accepted now, just work on your hours untill the new fleet has arrived and a lot of upgrades/promotions are made with present pilots, then maybe they will not narrow everything down as much as they do now.

Good Luck !

bcflyer · Post by **bcflyer** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:53 am

I've been waiting almost 4 months now and still no word. I have a friend who got the PFO at 3 weeks and another that got it at 3 1/2 months. No real pattern to it. Sorry to say but you'll just have to wait it out and hope for the best.

HappyCamper · Post by **HappyCamper** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:29 am

Hey BC flyer, did u go back for the medical, did your friend that got the pfo at 3.5 months did he get called for the medical. I am not sure why it would take that long to reject someone. I have never seen any company hire this way, but then again its their call.

bcflyer · Post by **bcflyer** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:13 pm

I did the medical and interview and all the other "tests" at the same time. My buddy that got PFO'd at 3 1/2 months did the same thing. Not sure about the 3 week guy though. I've given up trying to figure out the hiring process. Way easier on the blood pressure. Good luck.

HappyCamper · Post by **HappyCamper** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:36 pm

I guess, I have done the same. I wonder why it would take someone so long to decide to hire someone or not. Anyhow, I got called back for the medical and I believe that the Hr girl said they would only call back successfull applicants for the medical. However this does not appear to be true. Oh well, I hope you get the call bro.

hind sight · Post by **hind sight** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:27 pm

I guess that is what begs the question about why it takes so bloody long to decide if you want a person or not.
We all know we are graded on all the aspects of the interview and medical. But graded or not you should in a reasonable amount of time let someone know if they were successful or not. It is a professional courtesy.

Traf · Post by **Traf** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:17 pm

Maybe the grade you get has something to do with it. There is no pass or fail just candidate A vs candidate B. If B happens to have a low score, then A will be called first. The problem with being a B is, now that things have slowed down, they are interviewing cnadidate C and D. If C or D score higher than B, who do you think they will hire first? My guess is C or D.

I guess if you have been sitting in the pool for a long time, thy could be waiting until someone better comes along or they could hire you because no one in the last round scored better. Everything is based on score in the interview and test this round. The number of people interviewed for noe spot is much higher than it used to be. Used to be that the interview was the hardest part to get. Once you got the interview though, your chances were quite high as they turned away very few people compared to today's ratio.

HappyCamper · Post by **HappyCamper** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:37 pm

i thought getting called back for the med meant u were in pending the med. I thought u beat your competition that day!

hind sight · Post by **hind sight** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:43 pm

I know for a while they were doing the medical the day after your interview if you were from out of town.
I was told that due to things getting backed up at the doctors they would due medicals if space was available or as a condition of hire if a course was offered.

HappyCamper · Post by **HappyCamper** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:04 pm

well i was told if u are local u only get a call if your successfull. Maybe that has changed.

securitas · Post by **securitas** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:42 pm

Anybody know how the scores are weighted? Interview/cog/psych?

Is hiring based on the interview and the other tests are just there to make sure you're "okay"?

Do the people that conduct the interviews make the hiring decision, or do their notes just get shipped for HR to decide?

Any guys getting pfo'd know why?

hind sight · Post by **hind sight** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:24 pm

At my interview I was told that the notes from my interview were handed to a hiring panel or committee and they will decide after they do their investigation.
Also that All aspects of the interview and the cog and psycho test has some grade attached. So I guess the higher number out of everything is what you get.

A buddy of mine did his interview on a Wednesday medical Thursday and offered a job on Tuesday.

That is somewhat rare however.

HappyCamper · Post by **HappyCamper** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:33 pm

was your buddy jazz? Did he have alot of jet experience?

2low · Post by **2low** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:58 pm

Who Fn cares. They are interviewing absolutely EVERYBODY with a pulse. Can't you just be happy you interviewed at the best company in the world. You will find out sooner or later. Please RELAX, this is getting stupid.

And yes, my penis IS bigger than yours

popo · Post by **popo** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:53 am

call within 4 weeks...good you have the job..
No news after a few months, means you are not so good...

So, it is simple...people have been talking about this all summer...
Waste of ink...you had an interview great...
you bitch that you are not getting an nterview..and blow joe had one well study your A.s because 5 weeks after your interview you will be here crying and bad mouthing AC, and why this and why that...

move on with your life..they are calling everyone...so if you have not had the call go and prepare...and if they take so long to get back to you it is because they are not sure about you..simple it is like buying a car ...if you have to think about it for a long time then you wonder it is worth the money...that is what AC is wondering are you worth the money...so seat back and look pretty...

FedExMD11 · Post by **FedExMD11** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:16 am

Listen Popo or whatever you like to call yourself. You have no clue as do most people on here that are posting messages on here like yourself. First, the hiring practices at Air Canada are very unprofessional. I know several pilots at AC and they all agree. Second, the only way to truly evaluate someone is by placing them in the Sim. However, AC does not do this, they rely on bogus cog tests to determine what kind of pilot you will become. The fact that people are strung along for months is also very unprofessional. I know many individuals from several airlines, US Air, United, UPS, Spirit, American and so and non would treat an individual with such little regard. It seems that Air Canada is looking for puppets not competent pilots. In fact we just hired a guy who interviewed with AC back in Feb. He wasnt good enough for the mighty AC. What was his background 29. 6500 hrs, 2500 hrs Jet Pic in the airlines., aviation degree. Nice guy, aced our sim ect. Seems AC has different ideas. How do I know this, I am proud to be a part of a professional hiring committee at a good " professional" airline!

balls · Post by **balls** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:44 am

FedExMD11 wrote:Listen Popo or whatever you like to call yourself. You have no clue as do most people on here that are posting messages on here like yourself. First, the hiring practices at Air Canada are very unprofessional. I know several pilots at AC and they all agree. Second, the only way to truly evaluate someone is by placing them in the Sim. However, AC does not do this, they rely on bogus cog tests to determine what kind of pilot you will become. The fact that people are strung along for months is also very unprofessional. I know many individuals from several airlines, US Air, United, UPS, Spirit, American and so and non would treat an individual with such little regard. It seems that Air Canada is looking for puppets not competent pilots. In fact we just hired a guy who interviewed with AC back in Feb. He wasnt good enough for the mighty AC. What was his background 29. 6500 hrs, 2500 hrs Jet Pic in the airlines., aviation degree. Nice guy, aced our sim ect. Seems AC has different ideas. How do I know this, I am proud to be a part of a professional hiring committee at a good " professional" airline!

-- and a post like yours dissing AC, and by implication every pilot AC has hired, in such a general manner is professional? Your post speaks volumes.

You mention that you are involved in the hiring at some other company -- FedEx one would assume by your handle.

You work for FedEX? As a MD11 driver? On the hiring board? Based in the USA?

HappyCamper · Post by **HappyCamper** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:12 am

right lol

Jeremy Kent · Post by **Jeremy Kent** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:12 am

balls wrote:...and a post like yours dissing AC, and by implication every pilot AC has hired, in such a general manner is professional?

No kidding!

popo · Post by **popo** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:10 pm

MD 11 did you get the PFO from AC?
sounds like it, are you flying rubber dog ....out of HG kG?

popo is as good as MD 11 FEDEX big watch small di..k blablabla....
I did not say the AC sytem was right or wrong ...
I was talking about the stuff we have been reading over and over...
did you get the call...it has been 164h and 11 min and 22 sec since my interview...
does it mean I am getting PFO...blablabla..

by the way I am looking for a job is Fedex hiring?
what's your name can i use you as a reference....?

tbone · Post by **tbone** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:48 pm

Sorry for my ignorance, but what is a "PFO"? I know it is a bad thing!

Jaques Strappe · Post by **Jaques Strappe** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:21 pm

FedExMD11 wrote: How do I know this, I am proud to be a part of a professional hiring committee at a good " professional" airline!

If your post is any indication, I would say your definition of "Professional" is somewhat different from most and to the best of my knowledge, AC hasn't had any disgruntled employees attempt to take over an aircraft and kill everybody. Keep up the good work.

Front. · Post by **Front.** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:26 am

Well no matter how much you guys turn your self from this side to the other side and no matter how many battles you guys run and argue with eachother, no body will come to a conclusion as of what Air Canada's exact hiring policy and procedure consists of. So instead of pissing eachother off here just wait, like many have suggested.

Good Luck, you never know, you could be one of those late bloomers who wait 5 months before being called in for Ground School

Don't loose your hopes, and I've said this before and will say it again, Air Canada is not the only airline out there that may please you, at least not for me. I feel a pilot should sure, have a goal, but always look for other and perhaps better opportunities that will claim that goal, not a lot of things in aviation have only "one" road to sucess my man

Have you had a glance at Emirates/Cathay/Lufthansa and airlines out of North America... my impression is that the airline market and industry is doing a notch better overseas

And no, just because you are hired by Emirates doesn't mean you have to live in Dubai, they have other hubs you know ...

1FD2 · Post by **1FD2** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:24 pm

Sorry!!!! Emirates Does not have Other Hubs!! & I'm asuming you mean bases? Or do you mean commuting?
Cheers