the logbook process (kind of stupid question)

767 · Post by **767** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:13 pm

How do most pilots log their hours in their logbook? After filling in the hours flown, is it neccessary to get some kind of certification (or stamp) to prove that the pilot has flown those hours? Or do you just continue flying and logging hours without any certification? My point is, how do you fully prove that you have flown such and such hours?

Flyin' Hi · Post by **Flyin' Hi** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:47 pm

If it is training hours, the CFI will usually stamp and sign off the hours, certifying that they are correct. If they are hours with an employer, then you can usually get the Chief Pilot to certify them. That has been my experience thus far!

Walker · Post by **Walker** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:11 am

I can certify them for you; just send me your logbook, $200 and a case of scotch...

I also do birthday parties....

Redneck_pilot86 · Post by **Redneck_pilot86** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:03 pm

Flyin' Hi wrote:If it is training hours, the CFI will usually stamp and sign off the hours, certifying that they are correct. If they are hours with an employer, then you can usually get the Chief Pilot to certify them. That has been my experience thus far!

What about an operation with only one pilot? Can the owner certify it, if he isn't a pilot?

ST

Aeros · Post by **Aeros** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:40 pm

Redneck_pilot86 wrote: What about an operation with only one pilot? Can the owner certify it, if he isn't a pilot?

Yup.

Redneck_pilot86 · Post by **Redneck_pilot86** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:57 pm

Perfect, thanks. Hadn't thought about it until this thread came up.

ST

767 · Post by **767** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:48 pm

Thanks for your answers. Now the next question is, how does it work for major airline pilots? Or in other words, how is the system different from flying a private plane to flying a commercial jetliner? How do you fully prove you have flown on a jet. Im guessing maybe the airlines have special individuals who monitor pilot hours..

Front. · Post by **Front.** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:00 pm

well i was talking to one of the girls over at montair the other day about the same thing and she said, many could get away with it, but it would clearly show in their knowledge and show if they are really that experienced. I mean if you got 1000 TT and say you got 5000 TT, you will be learning a lot more and will be more knowledgable in the 4 or 5 years that you make those extra 4000 hours. And i am sure you wouldn't want to be caught in an interview cheating on your log book... as far as i know, they keep those kind of stuff on file.

just curious · Post by **just curious** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:19 am

When employed by a 703, 704, or 705 carrier, your logbook may be certified by the Chief Pilot, Ops Mgr, or President of the company.

Realistically, once you have an ATPL a certification is mainly for your next employer, and they are far less likely to look at the signature for proof of experience, but rather:

Your daily "little red book" entries for duty times, routes and hours

Your Pay Sheet summary for hours, contact time etc...

As a side note, I would if possible log things that may not appear in lder logbooks, like type of approach, duty time, and if using carbon page logs, the log page serial number. If applying for an ATPL, or establishing proof of recency, these are very handy.

As well, if you can fit in thumbs of your aircraft, instructors, approaches into places you thought you would never go to... these sort of things help you to recall events of interest to you 25 years down the line, and are often handy topics for discussion in your 705 interviews, when they try and guage your actual enthusiasm for the job, and your chosen profession.