Hypothetical question…
Just looking at the job postings for the past while a job caught my eye. It’s for a company called Little Red Air. They are looking for pilots and dispatch. I just got my commercial with a whopping ~200 hours. Knowing full well I wouldn’t be getting any flying jobs straight up from them, but as they post there are opportunities to start flying the 206 in the future. My question is this:
Should I bite the bullet, spend the extra 3 months that it will take “ME” to finish the multi engine and multi IFR
or
Applying for the dispatch job, and try to get the multi / IFR on days off?
Just curious.
Thanks in advance
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Last edited by Wacko on Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:31 am, edited 1 time in total.
1st: One can only assume you would need to relocate for this dispatcher job. If so, Is there a flight school with the equipment to teach multi-ifr at the new location? If there is none, your question is answered.
2nd: Many companies stiff require you posess a multi-ifr even if your starting job is on a 206. If this is the case, again question answered.
Basically, do your homework. You and only you will have to live with this decision.
Hi Wacko, you will definatley need your multi/IFR when applying at Little Red Air. They want to be able to put you on the King Air if they need to right away without any delays. My advice would be to get your multi/IFR right away and send them a resume. It is a great company for a low timer such as yourself to start at. You will be flying right away along with your dispatch duties. Good Luck
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I started a similar post about this....didnt really go far....actually it went south lol. Im in a similar situation....my question is, is it even really worth getting a MIFR with such little experience? How many companies out there put a fresh commercial guy in the right seat (with or without ramp dues aswell) as an FO and how many companies like this are out there? Id definatley work the ramp if it meant getting some type of flying job....but im sure instructing is a quicker path no? Thank guys
Instructing/floats is a quicker way to your ATPL and the search for your second job. Instructing will also give you invaluable skills when it comes to working 2 crew or as a training capt.
I would highly recommend getting your ME IFR and your IATRA as well before grabbing a job. A company hires for as long term as possible due to costs of training and all that, so they want someone who will continue on in their equipment. They will not pay for your multi or IFR; well I have never heard of a company doing that at least.
You are gonna need it eventually and how will that happen if you are flying your ass off all the time? Are you gonna take the time off work to do it? Are you gonna be making enough to do it?? Are you going to be living somewhere where it is easy to get trainingg (not thinking Ft. Vermillion has much training facilities) If its seasonal, for just the summer, then thats good. But if its a full time position, I would be hesitant. Finishing your training while you are still at home, or in a stable place makes sense to me.
just my two cents...
And p.s. the industry is starting to move better than it has in years, so it is highly possible to slide into a right seat gig fresh out of school with a multi ifr iatra.
Hey Wacko, if u have the funds and the INRAT done, u can finish your multi + IFR in two weeks, and thats taking into account some delays, wx, maintenance etc. It should'nt take u three months.
I am in a similar situation. I have just started a ground position here in Calgary and I currently Instruct part time. I do not have the Initial Multi IFR which I am planning on training for in the very near future. Even though there are no guarantees after the rating I am aware that the guarantee will be no flying if I dont do it. So just like anything else its a gamble. I am in the position though where I can still build that valuable PIC time.
185/310 wrote:u can finish your multi + IFR in two weeks, and thats taking into account some delays, wx, maintenance etc. It should'nt take u three months.
Bull Shit
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get your multi and group 1 instrument rating for sure...who cares if it expires while you are working the ramp, when they want to put you in the right seat your ppc ride will be combined with an instrument ride and thus you are good to go. If you don't get it, when the company needs somebody to start training tommorow cause somebody left today, you will be out of luck.
kavupilot wrote:...they want to put you in the right seat your ppc ride will be combined with an instrument ride and thus you are good to go...
Don't forget if its 703 a right seat position will often get you a PCC, not renewing your IFR, so you might still have to take care of that. But for sure get an ME IFR or no one will be that interested in your resume.
What about building PIC time? I am in pretty much the same position and wondering if I should do the instructor rating as well to build some time? Or should I just try my luck on the ramp/dispatch?
Thanks again! I think it would be hard for a company up north to let an IFR laps, especially if the pilot will be with the company for a year+ and he fits the company culture. I believe bonds are usually up in a year unless you sign for longer so worst case scenario one can try to find other employment after a year, I guess. By that time one would have some real time under their belt... one would hope
