Any thoughts on the Montair positions adverstised on this site? I may know someone with a passion for teaching that would love to keep instructing for the right institution. Your thoughts?
Cheers,
Nigel.
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my half informed-because i use to work at zbb-opinion: owner is a bit of a....how shall we say.....wanker. nice enough guy face to face and to clients, but maybe not the best boss...wheels up-(place boss name here) is a name he has been used.
however, i can tell you that there are way worse places to be in BC as an instructor, and if Montair was your only choice, in no way would I turn it down as an instructing gig. If you are being that picky, then you should pick another carreer. the operation, to my knowledge, is safe, and you get paid when you are supposed to. aircraft are in decent shape, even a newer 172, i believe.
****qualifier: old info, could be out of date and inaccurate*****
however, i can tell you that there are way worse places to be in BC as an instructor, and if Montair was your only choice, in no way would I turn it down as an instructing gig. If you are being that picky, then you should pick another carreer. the operation, to my knowledge, is safe, and you get paid when you are supposed to. aircraft are in decent shape, even a newer 172, i believe.
****qualifier: old info, could be out of date and inaccurate*****
Yes the Owner is a bit difficult at times. But he runs a tight ship and will treat you how you treat him. I always had positive dealings with him.
Two 172R's and a 172SP (all quite new) in the fleet of 152's and One older 172P (also a seneca II and BE100) The aircraft are very well kept, very safe enivronment and the pay is supposedly decent and on time.
Not a bad place to instruct if you know the score and can deal well with the "Head Honcho".
Cheers!
Two 172R's and a 172SP (all quite new) in the fleet of 152's and One older 172P (also a seneca II and BE100) The aircraft are very well kept, very safe enivronment and the pay is supposedly decent and on time.
Not a bad place to instruct if you know the score and can deal well with the "Head Honcho".
Cheers!
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The two pc12's werent flying enough after 9/11 to warrant their place supposedly. As soon as the lease ended on the one the sched flights slowed down and the 2nd was then gotten rid of and they continued just with charters in the PA34... Now they've got a King Air A100 up and running for charters etc. Doesn't look like it has seen much work yet though.
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My two cents
Al owes me 2 hours of time on the 172 r for doing some work for him. I don’t think that I’ll ever see it.
I think that it would be an OK place to work if you can let the boss's attitude roll off your back. If not I do not think that you would like it. He seems to not like seeing instructors advancing to the airlines or any place better than his Montair.
I think that it would be an OK place to work if you can let the boss's attitude roll off your back. If not I do not think that you would like it. He seems to not like seeing instructors advancing to the airlines or any place better than his Montair.
there is absolutely no argument that Al comes across as self-righteous egotistical pr*@k. I've had a few run-ins with him, and he has stabbed me in the back.
BUT
he is a good business man and does run a tight ship as Rowdy stated. They don't have much of an instructor pool and they are working out a deal with a big whack of chinese students coming over to do ab-initio all the way to multi-ifr and turbine. If I was looking for a 1st instructor job, I wouldn't turn it down just for the experience of working out of Canada's 4th busiest airport. If the deal pans out you'll be pretty busy and besides, there are much worse flight schools to work for.
Montair's one saving grace is that they have a new class 1 instructor named Peter that is an awesome dude. If you get the job stick close to him. He's honest and straight forward, and a whole heck of alot more personable.
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he is a good business man and does run a tight ship as Rowdy stated. They don't have much of an instructor pool and they are working out a deal with a big whack of chinese students coming over to do ab-initio all the way to multi-ifr and turbine. If I was looking for a 1st instructor job, I wouldn't turn it down just for the experience of working out of Canada's 4th busiest airport. If the deal pans out you'll be pretty busy and besides, there are much worse flight schools to work for.
Montair's one saving grace is that they have a new class 1 instructor named Peter that is an awesome dude. If you get the job stick close to him. He's honest and straight forward, and a whole heck of alot more personable.
It is better to be sitting on the ground wishing you were in the air than being in the air wishing you were on the ground
I did a multi rating there 5 years ago and He(owner) was my instructor. He is a different sort but I would say the best instructor i ever had, then again i was his best student, he only had to whack my hand once with his pen for over-boosting his turbos and I never did it again.
I could see how working for him could be a challenge as was being his student, the reason being he likes perfection and if he doesn't get it you'll hear about it.....not the worse thing to have in an instructor/employer.
The planes were kept in meticulous condition and the facilities were clean, his wife used to work there and she was a nice lady. He did have some long term instructors and used to offer a benefit package and pretty good pay compared to others around zbb. It also nice that there is a charter side of the operation so you can learn a few things from that too and its a draw for the students.
I remember how he used to run outside and tear into the odd guy who taxied in with their landing light on(in the daytime), he would be flailing his arms about as they taxied in giving all sorts of signals to turn off the light, then when the poor sod got out of the plane he would ask them if they knew how to use a check list, or what I believe he enjoyed the most was if they came from a different school he would say "don't they teach you to use a check list at XYZ flying school"??? And the steam coming out of his ears....oh it was a site to behold.
Take the damn job if its offered, if not for the hours for the stories you will have for later
Hes a good guy, very knowledgeable, technically he knows his planes and systems inside out and if he can make a dumb ass bush pilot like me understand them, I'm sure a smart instructor type like yourself could learn a lot from him too....with the right attitude ofcourse.
Good luck.
P.S. Don't call him Alfred, Allen, or Ally. ITS AL!
I could see how working for him could be a challenge as was being his student, the reason being he likes perfection and if he doesn't get it you'll hear about it.....not the worse thing to have in an instructor/employer.
The planes were kept in meticulous condition and the facilities were clean, his wife used to work there and she was a nice lady. He did have some long term instructors and used to offer a benefit package and pretty good pay compared to others around zbb. It also nice that there is a charter side of the operation so you can learn a few things from that too and its a draw for the students.
I remember how he used to run outside and tear into the odd guy who taxied in with their landing light on(in the daytime), he would be flailing his arms about as they taxied in giving all sorts of signals to turn off the light, then when the poor sod got out of the plane he would ask them if they knew how to use a check list, or what I believe he enjoyed the most was if they came from a different school he would say "don't they teach you to use a check list at XYZ flying school"??? And the steam coming out of his ears....oh it was a site to behold.
Take the damn job if its offered, if not for the hours for the stories you will have for later
Hes a good guy, very knowledgeable, technically he knows his planes and systems inside out and if he can make a dumb ass bush pilot like me understand them, I'm sure a smart instructor type like yourself could learn a lot from him too....with the right attitude ofcourse.Good luck.
P.S. Don't call him Alfred, Allen, or Ally. ITS AL!
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PilotFlying
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This topic's been inactive for a month now, but if it's any help I can tell you first hand that if you have a good work ethic and the willingness to learn, there is no place that you would rather be. Employees are treated fairly, pay is on par with equivalent operators, employee spirits and morale are high, and what Montair is probably best known for: exceptional aircraft. Aircraft are new, immaculate, well kept, and always well maintained. There are never any compromises made to safety or aircraft functionality.
One other big plus to Montair - unlike many competitors who guarantee all of their instructor rating candidates a job at the end - is that there will always be work for you. Only as many instructors are hired as are required. And with big things currently underway at Montair, this is definitely a plus.
As for the boss - he's a boss. And he does a good job of it.
If you have the opportunity for a job, take it. You won't regret it.
One other big plus to Montair - unlike many competitors who guarantee all of their instructor rating candidates a job at the end - is that there will always be work for you. Only as many instructors are hired as are required. And with big things currently underway at Montair, this is definitely a plus.
As for the boss - he's a boss. And he does a good job of it.
If you have the opportunity for a job, take it. You won't regret it.
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PilotFlying
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okey guys i don't knw what you have against Al, I personally love him, he is a great guy, very nice to me, and rather polite ...
I am not sure if your experience with him was different or what not, but today i did my solo and it was not necessary of him to come out and make me feel good and tell me i did good and socialize with me if he was really that much of a tart that you guys describe him to be, yes if you don't fly by rules and laws that accomodate safety, he will be on your arse.
Let it go already...
I am not sure if your experience with him was different or what not, but today i did my solo and it was not necessary of him to come out and make me feel good and tell me i did good and socialize with me if he was really that much of a tart that you guys describe him to be, yes if you don't fly by rules and laws that accomodate safety, he will be on your arse.
you mean one hell of a job right? cause that guy rocksAs for the boss - he's a boss. And he does a good job of it.
Let it go already...
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nope, i just came across a group of people saying untrue things about my CFI, no need to take up that kind of stuff for a guy who puts a ton of effort into making that flight school run like a charm.
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