So when job postings say no calls- and you call or don't does it even weigh into the chances of getting the job? I know it has been recommended before here to respect it, but the squeeky wheel gets the greece. Anyone have any experience with this dilema?
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I say it's a rrrroll of the dice.
If you didn't see the ad-- well, you couldn't have known they don't want you to call.
If you did, well . . . . now you shouldn't be surprised if they get irritated.
If you didn't see the ad-- well, you couldn't have known they don't want you to call.
If you did, well . . . . now you shouldn't be surprised if they get irritated.
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There was a CP out of YUL that returned all his calls. 5000 hours or 300. He always returned all his calls. A class act. He died in an accident out of YMX in 98.
I model my interaction with low timers the same way he treated me. People forget their humble beginings. Thats why there are so many bitter pilot's in the 'big show' that now are wearing epaulets. Being treated like goat shit in the begining, paves their career path with dung. One person at a time. It's not all about the 'big iron'. It's about investing in people.
I prefer people make the trip to see us. I know it's expensive when you have no money and you are a carrying 40K debt. I know.
However the people that did not get hired on with us this time around, I keep their resumes/CV's and when other companies call looking for people, I fax them a hand full of resumes. To date this season, 4 people that have visited us this past winter have been recommended to other jobs.
One person at a time.
I model my interaction with low timers the same way he treated me. People forget their humble beginings. Thats why there are so many bitter pilot's in the 'big show' that now are wearing epaulets. Being treated like goat shit in the begining, paves their career path with dung. One person at a time. It's not all about the 'big iron'. It's about investing in people.
I prefer people make the trip to see us. I know it's expensive when you have no money and you are a carrying 40K debt. I know.
However the people that did not get hired on with us this time around, I keep their resumes/CV's and when other companies call looking for people, I fax them a hand full of resumes. To date this season, 4 people that have visited us this past winter have been recommended to other jobs.
One person at a time.
I have been cold-calling CP's just looking for a job. Some of them are very helpful and polite, although still turning me down. But there are some people who just don't like to be called by 100 pilots they've never met. I hate the idea that a phone call could kill your chances of getting the job, but the truth is it might make them want to hire you too. As for someone telling you not to call, try email, fax, telegraph? Of course I may be too eager for my own good.
Feel free to ignore that "no calls" stuff fellows....it's all bunk designed to weed out the lads that don't have the chutzpah to really grovel like a pro. Me, I like to stalk CP's just shy of the point that they get wigged out and call the boys in blue. 
Call 'em up, hound 'em, then say you have Air Canada on the other line and tell 'em you'll call them back! 
That one never fails! They get all worried and shit, thinking that the big fish slipped through the hole in the net....then: 'ring!' "Me again!" You can almost hear the sigh of sheer relief in their voices!
"False alarm--lucky for you, bud! Now, was that a 40 of Rum or Vodka you wanted FedExed to the office?"
They are usually so relieved at this point that the job offer is in the bag. That is when the 'driver starts putting the screws to them and really digs in my scuffed snakeskin bootheels....I don't come cheap, boys. For silky smooth hands on the controls, expect to pay upwards of a cool $12K per annum, plus danger pay.
Now pick up that phone, and quit being such a beeeyatch!
-Henri
Call 'em up, hound 'em, then say you have Air Canada on the other line and tell 'em you'll call them back! That one never fails! They get all worried and shit, thinking that the big fish slipped through the hole in the net....then: 'ring!' "Me again!" You can almost hear the sigh of sheer relief in their voices!"False alarm--lucky for you, bud! Now, was that a 40 of Rum or Vodka you wanted FedExed to the office?"
They are usually so relieved at this point that the job offer is in the bag. That is when the 'driver starts putting the screws to them and really digs in my scuffed snakeskin bootheels....I don't come cheap, boys. For silky smooth hands on the controls, expect to pay upwards of a cool $12K per annum, plus danger pay.
Now pick up that phone, and quit being such a beeeyatch!
-Henri
