NEW FAA/CAA CONVERISION RULES???

Mig29 · Post by **Mig29** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:57 pm

I heard from someone recently who talked to T.C. that as of Dec.2006, the conversion requirement for Canadian and US pilots vice versa is going to be as simlpe as Air Law/Regulations written exam!!

That is if you hold CPL including MIFR as well!

Now, that hard to believe and knowing how gov'ts work, it'll probably happen in 2007, but if the word out there is not a gossip, that is some good news I think for us here.

Anyone has any more info...

Aeros · Post by **Aeros** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:33 am

I talked with some bigwigs in Headquarters and was told that they signed the agreement with the FAA Thursday. The agreement has a 90 day phase in period which is why it will only take effect in Dec.

You will be able to convert your TC licence to the same level FAA certificate (and vice versa) by doing the following things:
a) getting the appropriate medical for the licence or certificate that you wish to obtain;
b) writing a "differences" exam that covers air law. (It is my understanding that the exam is the same regardless of the level of certification -- ie: PPL - PPL is the same exam as ATPL - ATPL)
c) meeting a matrix that highlights the differences in the two countries licensing requirements (ie: FAA ATPL to TC ATPL, you will need to demonstrate that you have 900 hours in aeroplanes, demonstrate that you did an instrument flight test in a conventional multi-engine aeroplane, etc.... (The FAA will have a similar matrix, my guess proving that you have the extra X/C time that they require etc....)

nacho · Post by **nacho** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:00 pm

Could you epxpand on this al ittle futher? Who do I call for more info ?
Thanks.

Aeros · Post by **Aeros** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:35 pm

nacho wrote:Could you epxpand on this al ittle futher? Who do I call for more info ?

That depends on the conversion that you want. If you want to convert your TC licence to an FAA certificate you should contact one of the FAA FSDOs. If you have a FAA certificate that you want to convert to a TC licence I would suggest contacting a licensing officer at a TC office.

That being said, I would give them a bit of time to get their story straight before you jump on the phone. Like I said, the agreement was only signed Thursday so it might take a bit of time for the message to get down to those that slug it out in the trenches.

I understand that the TC exam has already been developed and written. They are just waiting for the computer folks to get it on the system. I have heard that the plan is to make the exam available ASAP even though you can only do the actual conversion starting in Dec.

nacho · Post by **nacho** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:07 pm

Thanks

Conquest Driver · Post by **Conquest Driver** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:58 pm

Does anyone know how this will work in regard to type ratings?

Shep · Post by **Shep** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:35 pm

Can you hold the TC ATPL as well as the FAA ATPL or is it one or the other?

Aeros · Post by **Aeros** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:38 pm

Conquest Driver wrote:Does anyone know how this will work in regard to type ratings?

I was told that you could transfer (one-for-one):
"Grade" of Liceence;
Multi and IFR Ratings (I assume float ratings too but that one wasn't specifically listed); and
Type Ratings.

Bottom line, it sounds like everything can be changed over.

flyincanuck · Post by **flyincanuck** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 10:00 pm

flip2 wrote:Can you hold the TC ATPL as well as the FAA ATPL or is it one or the other?

Both.

shower of sparks · Post by **shower of sparks** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:09 am

anything about caa/jaa conversion from tc of faa??

CAL · Post by **CAL** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:37 am

now all they need to do is allow us to work there without a work permit or fluency in spanish....

CAL · Post by **CAL** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:38 am

what about the instructor side of things?

Aeros · Post by **Aeros** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:58 pm

CAL wrote:what about the instructor side of things?

Instructor ratings are not included. I don't believe that there is a plan to include them down the road either.

Aeros · Post by **Aeros** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:01 pm

Not much more detail in the press release but it does shed a little bit of light on the subject.

The agreement covers aeroplanes only (Private, Commercial and ATPL) and includes night ratings, instrument ratings, multi-engine class rating and type ratings.

Transport Canada Press Release

Sideshow · Post by **Sideshow** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:58 pm

Ah they should make the americans do spins.... (joke)

I'd be up for a quick conversion. Not because I want to work in the US but there are some good overseas jobs that require FAA.

classiv · Post by **classiv** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:11 am

How is the instrument rating going to work?

An FAA instrument rating does not require going up for a ride with a examiner every year (and shelling out the bucks to do it).

So how is the FAA instrument holder going to convert his IFR to the Cdn one if he did his flight test ride more than 1 year ago?