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So, what kind of qualifications do you suppose it takes to realistically fill this position? A certain airline with a contract to Fisheries and Oceans is trying to fill this position on a Be20 Patrol aircraft.

The job is quite interesting, a lot of low level flying on the BC coast. 1st O pay really sucks from what I am told. Its about 16/Hr plus a base. Not sure of the base - Maybe 15k (just guessing), 800-1000hrs per year.

Company says 1750TT, 200Turbine time and 100 low level time (whatever that is). Does this sound reasonable? If so, why can they not find someone? Just wondering.
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Count every landing and takeoff as some sort of low level stuff.
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Post by water wings »

hmmm... requirements sound at par, from what i understand from your message, but the base pay is quite low (is that for sure?)
Certainly does not reflect what they want for qualifications, and living in BC is not cheap.
Low Level would be survey, grid flying, around the 300 - 500 AGL mark on a specified laid out track line over a specific area with stuff hanging out yer plane, or loaded up inside with machines that go ping, most likely.

if the base pay were higher, sounds pretty good.
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Like I said, just guessing on the Base pay. Might be as high as 20, But I really don't know. Anyone that wants to live in/near Comox, and do this kind of thing should contact Provincial Airlines (Nefoundland based outfit).
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loaded up inside with machines that go ping, most likely.
I think they have changed the ping to a sexy female voice which says something like, "mmmmm, you've just flown over gold sugar." or "Drill here baby"
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I did that once: Radar guy in the back, side-scanning radar to locate the boats, fly from Vancouver out to Juan De Fuca, fly west coast Vancouver Island on a grid, land at Port Hardy for fuel. Fly North Coast Vancouver Island on a grid, land at Port Hardy for fuel; fly grid down east side Vancouver Island go home. Next day do Charlottes. Repeat.

Find a boat, note its number, type of gear, carry on. All types of weather, the worse w/x the more boats out.

Lots of hours, not much 'flying,' unless you're captain. Time builder only.

Low level means firebombing, spraying, survey etc.

I did it for 2 weeks to try something new/pay a bill or two.

'Orrible. Plus the company is making good dosh, you're not.
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xsbank wrote: Find a boat, note its number, type of gear, carry on. All types of weather, the worse w/x the more boats out.

Lots of hours, not much 'flying,' unless you're captain. Time builder only.

Thats the job alright. the only thing wrong is the flying part. 1st O's seem to get as much pole time as captains from what I have seen. If the pay was somewhat better it would be a great 1st O job.
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Post by confuzed »

Maybe I'm just really tired coming off an unusually long rotation, but that doesn't sound like THAT bad of pay. I mean, if you're flying 1000 hours a year your duty time is going to be longer then that. Say you fly 1000 hours in the year....that averages out to about say 83 hours a month. Now say you work 20 days of the month, that's a little over 4 hours of flying a day. Rolling with this, say you get 2 hours extra in there for duty time, that's 6 hours a day roughly. At $16/hr that's $96 day or roughly $1920 a month or $23,000 a year. That's before the salary kicks in....now if it's as you say about $15,000 then that's not THAT bad money. Now if the salary is way lower, then it has the potential to really suck. Again, someone please tell me how tired I am and that my math is just really off....other then that, it doesn't sound that bad to me. It would be great experience with tonnes of flying.


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Post by Spokes »

It generally works out closer to 800 hrs/yr. Base pay Im told is 16k. Flight pay is on-off only. No extra duty pay. Generally flights are in the 5-8 hr range.
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