Canjet

po'dcjer · Post by **po'dcjer** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:30 pm

green bastard - where did you get your info...

rumor has it, signed deal with transit and signing another deal for a bunch of florida trips....just what i heard, dont know if its true, i guess we'll see, should be interesting the couple of days....

green bastard · Post by **green bastard** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:47 pm

Globe and Mail Sept. 28/06 . "CanJet rehires as a charter
Airline retooling with flights to sunspots
BRENT JANG

TRANSPORTATION REPORTER

Three weeks after laying off 456 workers, CanJet Airlines owner Kenneth Rowe is hiring 100 back as he makes plans to switch to charter service.

The Halifax-based airline will offer charter flights for the fall and winter holiday season to sun destinations on behalf of tour operators such as Sunquest, and also have government contracts.

CanJet halted its full slate of scheduled flights and grounded its planes on Sept. 10, blaming high fuel prices and fierce competition. It originally kept just 70 of its 526 employees. Mr. Rowe said he had to take difficult but necessary measures to "re-engineer" CanJet into a charter service with six Boeing 737 airplanes. CanJet had 10 leased planes on its schedule, and but has returned four of them to lessors.

"No one likes to lay off hundreds of people. If you have too many people in the boat, and you have to throw a few over the side to save the rest, then you do it. It's a tough decision," he said in an interview.

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Mr. Rowe estimates that 80 per cent of CanJet's business will be charters and the remaining 20 per cent will be limited scheduled service during Christmas, spring break and the peak of summer.

The charter service will initially feature flights from Halifax and Toronto to sunspots such as Cuba, Mexico, Jamaica, the Dominican Republic and the Bahamas. CanJet's sister jet firm, Execaire, will help with marketing corporate charters.

Four-year-old CanJet enjoyed strong load factors, or the proportion of seats filled, approaching 80 per cent, he said, but competition from Air Canada and WestJet Airlines Ltd. proved to be too much.

"WestJet decided to spread their wings and go coast to coast, to match Air Canada," Mr. Rowe said. "I don't think they ganged up on us. We're big boys."

Given increased seat capacity from the country's two largest airlines, especially in Atlantic Canada, it didn't make sense for CanJet to slash fares to compete, as price-cutting Jetsgo Corp. did before it closed operations in March, 2005, said airline analyst Rick Erickson.

CanJet chief operating offer Julie Gossen, who is Mr. Rowe's daughter, will continue in that role in the short term, but she may be transferred to assume greater responsibilities next year at parent company IMP Group Inc., said Mr. Rowe, who owns IMP and serves as its chairman and chief executive officer.

"I didn't want to go on indefinitely with some ego trip to stay as the third-largest national airline," Mr. Rowe said. "Jetsgo blew their brains out financially."

IMP's ventures include aircraft maintenance. About 50 former CanJet staff have found IMP jobs.

The rehired CanJet pilots and flight attendants will have the ability to rejoin the carrier's recently formed unions, Mr. Rowe said, referring to the Air Line Pilots Association and the Canadian Union of Public Employees, which represents flight attendants. "There was no attempt to bust the CanJet unions. IMP has had unions for donkey's years."

During a conference call, Mr. Rowe noted that WestJet and Air Canada have size and experience on their side. "When you're running a business, you don't sit there just getting beaten up by two larger organizations that have been around a lot longer than we have."

po'dcjer · Post by **po'dcjer** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:51 pm

thanks GB, if your hearing anything else pm pls, PO'D

flyin' fish · Post by **flyin' fish** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:21 pm

green bastard wrote:From the Globe "CanJet chief operating offer Julie Gossen, who is Mr. Rowe's daughter, will continue in that role in the short term, but she may be transferred to assume greater responsibilities next year at parent company IMP Group Inc., said Mr. Rowe, who owns IMP and serves as its chairman and chief executive officer."

Any thoughts?

That sort of makes sense, since there was rumour last summer that she was stepping over to IMP. 'bought time I'd say, get somebody who knows how to OPERATE an airline.

ehbuddy · Post by **ehbuddy** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:37 pm

I does not matter how many planes or employee's he has...........the bottom line is:

The consumer dictates the success of his airline and he has proven on more than one occasion that he will, at a moments notice shut down his operation.

My guess is that the average family who has been saving for a couple of years for that 'dream vacation' will think twice about purchasing tickets for a trip 3 months down the road and then have it all vanish when he vanishes again!

Its about as viable as a 3 legged horse.

CanadaEH · Post by **CanadaEH** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:58 pm

My guess is that the average family who has been saving for a couple of years for that 'dream vacation' will think twice about purchasing tickets for a trip 3 months down the road and then have it all vanish when he vanishes again!

When booking a vacation package, most people don't know or even think to ask what airline they'll be flying on. And really, if it comes down to you either going or not going on vacation (and you really want to go).... you're gonna go no matter who it is.

atpilot · Post by **atpilot** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:39 am

When booking a vacation package, most people don't know or even think to ask what airline they'll be flying on.

Actually, they do. At least that was my experience when I was an agent.

55+ · Post by **55+** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:27 am

atpilot wrote:
When booking a vacation package, most people don't know or even think to ask what airline they'll be flying on.

Actually, they do. At least that was my experience when I was an agent.

Yes, we do. Myself and the better half went on a cruise out of Fort Lauderdale to points in the Caribbean(30th Anniversary), we saved our bucks prior and I made sure all bases were covered and didn’t want to be blindsided by unforeseen items. Booked return airfare on Air Canada as they have superior scheduling in my view and even went a day early to avoid any issues in boarding the cruise ship. Others who travel on similar type of vacations do the same thing as I was told. After all, it is our hard earned bucks…………

waterpooch989 · Post by **waterpooch989** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:03 am

Seat back television( I myself am an indusrty professional and I love this feature, privacy in a bottle I call this feature), a smile when you leave..... A customer is always, and I mean always lost in the last five minutes of contact!

po'dcjer · Post by **po'dcjer** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:11 am

waterpooch989 wrote:Can somebody please kill this thread, time and time again we hear the same whining. Canjet this, Ken Rowe that,,,,,,,,,Canjet 1 this, Canjet 2 that. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me...... Just don't go back, your life will be that much better! And if you are a passenger, please go West Jet. Here's a short list, they actually answer the phone when you call to book a flight or Q and A, for the most part they are on time, service with a smile, profit shareholders who actually work, seat back television( I myself am an indusrty professional and I love this feature, privacy in a bottle I call this feature), a smile when you leave..... A customer is always, and I mean always lost in the last five minutes of contact! Why would anyone ever fly on Canjet ever again? Certainly not anyone from my family, and I guaruntee that is for sure.

and I thought its been pretty quite lately...leave it people like you to keep it going

let me guess your a westjet owner

waterpooch989 · Post by **waterpooch989** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:18 am

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rickenbacker · Post by **rickenbacker** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:34 am

waterpooch989 wrote:No I don't even have a resume in there, yet.....But I have worked for Mr. Rowe in the past. I actually like working up north, steady paycheck. But I do love the humor in this forum!!!!

I guess as long as you find the hardship of others funny I guess you'll be entertained for awhile.

waterpooch989 · Post by **waterpooch989** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:11 am

A friend of mine called bout three months prior to their most recent shutdown. He went, and gave up a great job in doing so.

737daytripper · Post by **737daytripper** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:24 am

Heard that Transat contracts are to be announced soon. Any truth to this?

FlySmrt · Post by **FlySmrt** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:26 am

I hear they know all the flying between now and May. They have to run some blocks to see what they will need for crew. The re-hiring will be in stages between December and February. Anyone else hear anything different?

EastCoaster · Post by **EastCoaster** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:02 pm

There must be an announcement coming soon... Hang tight... There's usually some truth behind rumors on here. Check out the Transat web site. Seems like there are a whole lot of flights that aren't yet posted. So, one of two things has happened... Either Transat decided that there was no good reason to fly a whole bunch of full airplanes down south this winter.... OR... they haven't posted a bunch of flights to be operated by CanJet. I'm sure we'll find out either way soon.

EastCoaster

flyin' fish · Post by **flyin' fish** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:45 pm

OK.....so next question, if there's more flying to do with Transat, does this mean more hiring above what's already been announced??? The numbers I hear are pretty staggered, but it seems to be creeping up more and more. Any thoughts?

CanadaEH · Post by **CanadaEH** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:04 pm

There must be an announcement coming soon... Hang tight... There's usually some truth behind rumors on here. Check out the Transat web site. Seems like there are a whole lot of flights that aren't yet posted. So, one of two things has happened... Either Transat decided that there was no good reason to fly a whole bunch of full airplanes down south this winter.... OR... they haven't posted a bunch of flights to be operated by CanJet. I'm sure we'll find out either way soon.

Just curious, how do you know there are a lot of flights that aren't posted? Most tour operators have their winter schedules posted and 'for sale' by September, IIRC.

hind sight · Post by **hind sight** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:11 pm

So what happeed to WestJets first right of refusal?

Troubleshot · Post by **Troubleshot** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:32 pm

hind sight wrote:So what happeed to WestJets first right of refusal?

maybe they refused it....

rickenbacker · Post by **rickenbacker** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:33 am

I heard that the whole wierd way that CJ went about with their switch over to a charter airline had something to do with their being able to negotiate with Transat. Westjet only got first dibs among sched arilines. Again just rumor.
Transat does have flights down south in april that have no airline or aircraft listed.

CanadaEH · Post by **CanadaEH** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:14 pm

I heard you guys might have 6 flights/week out of YQB and YUL...

flynbutcher · Post by **flynbutcher** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:10 pm

Quite possible, I heard that rumor a month before the shutdown.

FlySmrt · Post by **FlySmrt** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:58 pm

The contract between Westjet and Transat expires in the spring. Guessing CanJet will go after that contract.

Huge Hammer · Post by **Huge Hammer** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:56 pm

The contract between Westjet and Transat expires in the spring. Guessing CanJet will go after that contract

The contract does not expire until November 07.

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HaHa, now that's a funny tort.....

Re: HaHa, now that's a funny tort.....

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2 + 2 usually equals 4

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