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Front. · Post by **Front.** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:33 pm

Hey all, does anybody recomend this book for written prep?

http://www.flighttrainingmanuals.com/pilot.htm

Apache64_ · Post by **Apache64_** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:10 pm

If your doing your private, then the From The Ground Up works well and is less costly. Although, it may skip around a little it does the job, and TC writtens are based on this book. You can get a Written work book to go with the FTGU. Dale Nielsen has pretty much the same information, though the copy I looked at was much older, so it may have changed.

Cheers

Apache

Front. · Post by **Front.** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:42 pm

yeah the only reason really i am looking for an alternative than FGU is that it is very good at making you re read paragraphs a few times... and well for a 400 page book that isn't a fast way to progress. Is their book called Test notes or what ever the exact name is again a good one?

Apache64_ · Post by **Apache64_** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:23 am

Canadian Private Pilot Answer Guide I believe is the book. Here is a link to it online. http://www.cyberpilotshop.com/item53.htm If that doesnt work its on Calgary Pilot Supply. As well you can try the Pultz Private Pilot. I havent used the Private Pilot Manual, but I did use the Instructor Guide and found it really good. As well the Pultz uses as you go question review. If you can find it, I dont remember the website, but there is one that has free online exams for the student, private and commercial written exams.

Here it is: http://www.aerotraining.com

Cheers

Apache[/url]

Icebound · Post by **Icebound** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:10 pm

C182 wrote:....

Is their book called Test notes or what ever the exact name is again a good one?

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"Flight Test Notes: Preparation Guide for Canadian Private and Commercial Flight Tests" by Andrew Fasan is useful. Is it worth the money? It depends on what sort of study you are. I happen to be a patient type that does read the 363 page FTGU and the Flight Training Manual paragraphs several times, so the FTN was probably less useful for me than it might be for someone else....

The value in the Flight Test Notes is that it brings both the "flying" (FTM) and the book-learning (FTGU) topics together.... in a more-or-less checklist sort of way. I do not think, however, that it is quite as comprehensive as the FTGU-FTM combination.

So I would consider the Flight Test Notes as an additional resource, and not an "alternative" for FTGU-FTM.

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Front. · Post by **Front.** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:56 pm

Well the reality is that the schools should provide Ground School, and assign homework out of FGU. Unfortunately my previous school wasn't sucessful in applying a ground school at the school. Not sure if that's normal or not, and i am not the patient guy who likes to read 360 pages lol.

I want something that takes me through the written, as the PPL is the license to learn anyway. I wouldn't mind reading through the FGU when I am able to apply it to my own flying, just knowing that you've got that PPL at hand is a bit of a reliever b4 u start going head to head with the CPL stuff.

Is it also true that understanding of the PPL ground school is essential to understand the CPL ground school? What is coverd in CPL anyway? You already know how to fly, so what do they teach.

Sorry for throwing a few questions out there at once,

thanks.

Apache64_ · Post by **Apache64_** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:28 pm

I hate to say this, but yeah you need a good understanding of the PPL. Not just for the commercial but to get the written done. TC is great at wording questions just right. Not to mention the fact that what you learn in your groundschool gives you the knowledge that you will apply with your license to learn. The way it works is you do something in the airplane, and you go ah that's how it works. A firm understanding in the groundschool will reduce your flight time, the amount you spend re-writing the groundschool, and the risks of you flying an airplane by yourself in this grand country of ours.

While I dont want to preach, and not to tell you what to do. But, sit down and read the FTGU work through it, re-read it a few times. Find a school or go back to the school you did your groundschool at and do another one. Some instructors are good some are not. Most schools will allow you to repeat the grounschool as many time as you like as long as you have paid for one of them.

Get a firm knowledge on the ground, before you are wishing you had it in the air.

There is no EASY way to be a good pilot.

Cheers

Apache

Front. · Post by **Front.** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:17 pm

rgr, thanks for the insights !

I don't think anything is easy when it is a profession that you're working on.

mellow_pilot · Post by **mellow_pilot** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:13 pm

Umm... aren't there minimum ground school hrs for ppl? How could a flight school not provide ground school and still get student's licenced?

I also hate to break it to you, but FTGU is not a difficult book. If you're moving on to cpl, I suggest you start reading other more advanced stuff now.

If you don't like reading FTGU now, you really won't like digging into the CARs. They're like watching paint dry on growing grass.

Do yourself a favour and find some aspect of theory that intrests you. If you're intrested, you'll learn faster and end up a better pilot.

Apache64_ · Post by **Apache64_** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:37 am

As for what should be taught on your cpl:
Groundschool
- The CARS (not the band, the law) 700 series especially
- More Advanced Aircraft Systems; ie pressurization, turbines etc
- Review of Weather, use of high level weather charts
- review of Airlaw
- Navigation with the use of Instruments, ADF, VOR, GPS intercepting tracks and radials
- PDM, CRM and Human Factors

Probably more, but I cant remember right now.

In Flight
- Make sure you can still fly to Private Standards, usually for students who have not flown in awhile
- General improvement of upper air work type stuf
- More advanced maneuvers according to the new Standards
- Advanced Instrument Flight

Enjoy your training.

Cheers

Apache