If I were an "Owner" at West Jet....

Hotel Tango · Post by **Hotel Tango** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:52 pm

Floats wrote:They are pretty bad, but nothing beats the "Yes we have Bagels!" Tim Hortons commercial

floats

that's steeped.

At least they canned the idoit with the mustache from the crappy tire commercials. I still remember the issue of McLeans with his picture and the headline "what a tool"

rotorfloat · Post by **rotorfloat** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:52 pm

grammar boy wrote:
You're right, we are paid shite. That's why they put over $3800 in my account yesterday for payday. I'm an f/o btw.

Dude, that IS shite...I fly single engine vfr and that is slightly more than my monthly...before flight pay is added. And I don't have 200 pax sitting behind me.

What's wrong with this picture?

Flight85 · Post by **Flight85** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 2:38 pm

Hey man, Canadian Tire guy was my hero!

Chaffey · Post by **Chaffey** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:28 pm

I dont know... I happen to love the commercial with the TAC agents and the dog not wanting to go back to his original family. It shows westjetters care.
But It was better than the old commercials with the plane going accross the sky saying enjoy the view infront of you with 24 channels. The newer commercials are much better.
But they must be working, because everyday when i told people i worked for westjet, they said "oh... so you're an owner"
so even if they may seem like bad commercials, people still remember them, and that is what counts.

Flight85 · Post by **Flight85** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:11 pm

I like the one with the poor fellow that can't find the channel with the comedy on it.

It makes me sad, then glad, all in one swoop.

Four1oh · Post by **Four1oh** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:00 pm

rotorfloat wrote:
grammar boy wrote:
You're right, we are paid shite. That's why they put over $3800 in my account yesterday for payday. I'm an f/o btw.
Dude, that IS shite...I fly single engine vfr and that is slightly more than my monthly...before flight pay is added. And I don't have 200 pax sitting behind me.

What's wrong with this picture?

what's wrong with your math is that's every 2 weeks.

. . · Post by **. .** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:22 pm

I love when someone doing specalized work comes on here and says that they make so much more than WJ/AC/add airline here/etc, pilots.

You're getting paid that much to fly VFR because it's specailized work. If you were doing VFR tours of the falls, or intro flights you sure as hell wouldn't be making that kind of money. Going Co-Pilot at one of the better airlines in Canada is not a 2 year plan. It's a 20 year plan. When the WJ skipper retires out making just shy of 200k a year with a whack in the bank perhaps you'd like to compare paystubs again? You could even add in your flight pay if you like in that situation.

Don't compare apples or oranges. If you wanted to compare WJ's wage on the 737 vs the former canjet, vs sunwing you might have something to talk about.

. ._ · Post by **. ._** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 3:55 am

Flight85 wrote:Hey man, Canadian Tire guy was my hero!

THANKS! And don't forget the many fine items available at Canadian Tire to get you through that Canadian winter!

Four1oh · Post by **Four1oh** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:42 am

endless wrote:I love when someone doing specalized work comes on here and says that they make so much more than WJ/AC/add airline here/etc, pilots.

You're getting paid that much to fly VFR because it's specailized work. If you were doing VFR tours of the falls, or intro flights you sure as hell wouldn't be making that kind of money. Going Co-Pilot at one of the better airlines in Canada is not a 2 year plan. It's a 20 year plan. When the WJ skipper retires out making just shy of 200k a year with a whack in the bank perhaps you'd like to compare paystubs again? You could even add in your flight pay if you like in that situation.

Don't compare apples or oranges. If you wanted to compare WJ's wage on the 737 vs the former canjet, vs sunwing you might have something to talk about.

Don't forget to add that these so-called lucrative VFR jobs tend to be seasonal.

leftyxl · Post by **leftyxl** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:08 pm

Shite?
Dude do you realize how misinformed you are.

A wise man said " It is better to thought a fool" .... but you probably know that one.

Fly safe

jjj · Post by **jjj** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:21 pm

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squawk 7600 · Post by **squawk 7600** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:09 pm

ok, so just to clear things up here a moment: WestJet DOES pay excellent wages then? Because honestly I didn't think they did. Also, are the stocks doing well lately? I haven't checked them in quite some time.

rotorfloat · Post by **rotorfloat** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:43 pm

Four1oh wrote: what's wrong with your math is that's every 2 weeks.

Well, that's much better. My company gives you full support, we get moved around on WJ.

Dude, misinformed? You bet. I was just a wee bit shocked that a '37 driver might have been making what an oil patch flinger makes. I'm not starting a "mine's bigger than yours" debate. We all deserve more, regardless of what we're in.

Tours around the falls? Doesn't matter what they'd pay, it wouldn't be enough. No thank you sir.

Sorry endless, your 20 year plan just perpetuates the mindset that pilots have to take it up the ass for the majority of their career, because 'one day' they may be making 200K.

sky's the limit · Post by **sky's the limit** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:45 pm

No, by any reasonable standard, WJ does not pay reasonable wages.

Everyone there has to believe they do, because they can do nothing else. There you go, flame away, but it's the truth. You quote me the high-end Capt's wage and tell me how great it is.... How long did it take you to get there?? It's crap, and it's only served to speed up the rapid degredation of the fixed-wing industry.

To be fair, it's not just WJ, looking around at certain Bizjet wages also makes one shake thier head. Well, then we CMA et al, and that's been beat to death. We now have a whole generation of pilots out there who think $40,000 is good money - my generation, and it's embarrassing.

STL

LuckyPilot · Post by **LuckyPilot** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:26 pm

The stalker skit with Rick Mercer is pretty funny, but unfortunately for a friend of mine, it kind of hits close to home.

PITA · Post by **PITA** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:11 pm

My employeer says he pays industry standard but I get the added bonusl of having a longer time to earn it.

PITA

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:45 pm

" We all deserve more, regardless of what we're in. "

Help me out here, employees "deserve" they don't earn?

The industry will pay what you are willing to work for.

If you are willing to work for a low wage that is exactly what you "deserve".

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deserve
One entry found for deserve.

Main Entry: de·serve
Pronunciation: di-'z&rv
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): de·served; de·serv·ing
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French deservir, from Latin deservire to devote oneself to, from de- + servire to serve
transitive verb : to be worthy of : MERIT <deserves another chance>
intransitive verb : to be worthy, fit, or suitable for some reward or requital <have become recognized as they deserve -- T. S. Eliot>
- de·serv·er noun

Duster · Post by **Duster** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:22 pm

I still have to stand back and pinch myself from time to time to stop from feeling guilty - 152k a year to go to work less than half the year - newest fleet in North America - build my own schedule - great guys to fly with - 50k a year into self directed pension - the odd overnite in CUN or LAS. Your right guys - I don't deserve this - just don't tell my boss or my wife

The second and third year FO's seem pretty happy with their 85-90 k and not working EVERY holiday and long weekend. They dont deserve it either

invertedattitude · Post by **invertedattitude** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:44 pm

Duster wrote:I still have to stand back and pinch myself from time to time to stop from feeling guilty - 152k a year to go to work less than half the year - newest fleet in North America - build my own schedule - great guys to fly with - 50k a year into self directed pension - the odd overnite in CUN or LAS. Your right guys - I don't deserve this - just don't tell my boss or my wife

The second and third year FO's seem pretty happy with their 85-90 k and not working EVERY holiday and long weekend. They dont deserve it either

Wait a minute, WestJet Pilot salary at 152K/yr or am I missing something here.

Four1oh · Post by **Four1oh** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:53 pm

actually, you're missing quite a bit, my smelling-like-type 1 friend.

Redwine · Post by **Redwine** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:17 am

You'd never see this ending text here anytime soon...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NIYLtZ3dSeo

stratcat · Post by **stratcat** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:06 am

looks like the ad did exactly what it was suppose to,it got noticed.Everyone is talking about it.A little bit about advertising and marketing,its not weather people like or dislike the ad its that it was noticed.The ad did its job,good job westjet