Caravan and Float ratings in Canada.

[wiz]

G'day all.
I'm very interested in coming over from Australia and doing a caravan and a float endorsement. I would ideally prefer to do both at the same time, but am happy to do them seperately if required.
Does anyone out there have any information that might help me out?.
+8000Hr CPL (A)(H) multi, aero,tailwheel, night.......blah blah blah. very current.
any info on approximate cost, time required, locations, what is required from Transport Canada, Visa and entry requirements, accomadation costs, transport costs........anything related that might help, would be appreciated.
Cheers, Wiz.
Any commercial organisations that can help me out are encouraged to email me.

[Ralliart]

Welcome wiz,

You won't earn many friends in the Canadian aviation industry by advertising the desire to buy a Caravan rating, however, in regards to the general float rating.....

Here is the info for license conversion and validations:
http://www.tc.gc.ca/civilaviation/gener ... l/fore.htm

Recreational Flying in Canada: Foreign Licence Validation Certificate (FLVC)
A foreign pilot licence of a visitor whose residence is outside Canada may be validated for private recreational purposes. The foreign pilot licence must be valid under the law of the issuing state and valid for the privileges appropriate to the specific purpose.

An applicant may apply for a Foreign licence Validation Certificate (FLVC) before arriving in Canada. The FLVC will be issued for a period of one year at which time the applicant may choose to renew it, or apply for a permanent Canadian Pilot Licence.

The applicant may fax a copy of their pilot licence and their valid Medical Certificate to one of Transport Canada’s Regional offices.

Transport Canada Safety and Security, General Aviation, Personnel Licensing AARRB), Place de Ville, Tower C, 6th Floor, Area D, 330 Sparks Street, Ottawa, Ontario, K1A 0N8.

There is a licensing fee of $45 Cdn. applicable that may be paid by a certified cheque, money order or credit card number, (the cheque should be made payable to ("The Receiver General for Canada").

So in a nutshell, with your ICAO medical and license, you can apply for the license validation for $45, and this will allow you to do the float rating in Canada on a Canadian aircraft.

As far as the requirements for the float rating, you require 7 hours total, with at least 1 hour solo and 5 solo takeoff / landings.

There are lots of floatplane schools in Canada. Use Google for "float plane training canada" or check out this link:
http://www.avcanada.ca/directory/index.php?cat=106

Hope this gets you started.
Cheers

Sorry about the Caravan comment. It's just generally frowned upon in Canada to buy your own aircraft type ratings.

[Lurch]

G'day all.
I'm very interested in coming over from Australia and doing a caravan and a float endorsement. I would ideally prefer to do both at the same time, but am happy to do them seperately if required.
Does anyone out there have any information that might help me out?.
+8000Hr CPL (A)(H) multi, aero,tailwheel, night.......blah blah blah. very current.
any info on approximate cost, time required, locations, what is required from Transport Canada, Visa and entry requirements, accomadation costs, transport costs........anything related that might help, would be appreciated.
Cheers, Wiz.
Any commercial organisations that can help me out are encouraged to email me.

Come over for training then returning home, or staying here?

Because with your hours all you need to do is get a basic 7 hour float and then let somebody else (future employer) pay for the PPC

Lurch

[wiz]

Sorry for the misunderstanding guys. I intend to return to OZ and fly back here. the Oz authorities recognize the canadian ratings and it would be added to my licence over here.
Generally over here, if your have the endorsment, you get the job...... no endo no job, unless you start on a different aircraft and work your way up the ladder. trouble with that is that most of the operators with vans only operate vans............ so no endo, no job. horrible little catch 22, but thats how it is. I have work lined up over here, if I have the endo, so I'm no threat to your industry. just wanna have a look about and get a little better value for my bucks that I would over here.
Did the google thing and sent 18 emails........... none have been returned in over a week. Was hoping to contact someone that is actually working for an organisation that could be interested in my training dollar.
Cheers, Wiz.

[Cat Driver]

Ralliart:

It's not a big issue but when did TC require one hour solo, I thought it was five take offs and landings, with no time mentioned to perform them.

[Lurch]

Hey Wiz

How does it work if a Canadian wants to head Down under to work?

Is the licence recognised? what about work Visa's? Jobs?

Cheers

Lurch

[wiz]

yes, the licence is recognised, but you will have to do a validation to use it privately, and a conversion to use it commercially. the conversion is just an airlaw exam, australian medical and a flight test.
As for the work, I think we're in a worse boat than you guys, as the industry is really very small compared to the industry over your way. smae crappy wages and conditions, but plenty more competition, due to the small size of the industry.
I have seen a few Canadians over here flying, but generally they are working on the sly. I think we have the same sort of rules as the US with regards the immigration/work rules. there has to be a demonstrated lack of qualified people to take on an advertised position to get a job over here. I think getting in on a general work visa is simple enough, as I am alway running into backpackers with 12 month work visas, but I'm not sure how that will work in the aviation field. possibly email a couple of the operators in places that appeal to you and see if they can give you any info.
Cheers, Wiz.

[Adam Oke]

I thought it was five take offs and landings, with no time mentioned to perform them.

Yea it's only 5 take offs and landings. I had 0.8 for my endorsement.

[co-joe]

I've never heard of somebody doing float training on a van. Somebody must have a FTU oc and a van eh?

[Ralliart]

I thought it was five take offs and landings, with no time mentioned to perform them.

My mistake, I should have worded it 7 hrs total, minimum 5 hrs dual with 5 solo takeoffs / landings.

[wiz]

Somebody must have a FTU oc and a van eh?

Huh?????

'Ive never heard of somebody doing float training on a van.

Doesn't have to be in a van. can be on whatever. I have to do the van endo afterwards though. would be handy to do both at the same time. (although, I really wanna fly a beaver, so its no biggy)

[Brint]

In Canada, to fly the Caravan IFR with Passengers, you have to be trained in the simulator. If that is what you need, you'll have to head to the States. There are no simulators in Canada. You could go to FlightSafety in Kansas, or PanAm International Flight Academy in Memphis, TN. Both will run about $7000 if I remember correctly.

http://webprd.flightsafety.com/aircrafttype.php

http://www.panamacademy.com/index.asp

If you are looking for just a simple 208 checkout, you could probably strike a deal with an operator around here. However you may find it hard to convince an owner to let a 7 hour floatpilot fly their Caravan on floats.

PM me if you need more help

[Cat Driver]

Judging by this guys qualifications he should be able to fly a Caravan on floats with no problem....unless of course someone hit him on the head with a hammer a few times before he got in it.

Remember we are not talking about the space shuttle here.

[wiz]

yeah, I dont have a problem driving the van on floats, just need to tidy up the paperwork. and getting belted with a hammer is part of the preflight. keeps me talking like a pilot.
Over here in Oz, we generally have to do 50hrs in command under supervision (ICUS) to satisfy the insurance companies. the work I will be doing has the 50hrs included. having flown the van on floats, its no biggy.
Thanks for the info guys.
Cheers, Wiz