Two passengers ejected/ floats sheared / a/c lands on rnwy

onceacop · Post by **onceacop** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:40 pm

http://wcco.com/topstories/local_story_301165817.html

CD · Post by CD » Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:52 pm

TerrainTerrain · Post by **TerrainTerrain** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:55 pm

Incredible. And incredibly confusing how the rear (?) passengers became ejected. This should be an interesting report.

Bobby868 · Post by **Bobby868** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:57 pm

umm just a guess, glassy water landing gone really really bad. But wowhow hard and deep would you have to hit to shear the floats clean off?

2milefinal · Post by **2milefinal** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:18 pm

Bobby868 wrote:umm just a guess, glassy water landing gone really really bad. But wowhow hard and deep would you have to hit to shear the floats clean off?

and keep it up-right?.....i dont get any of this

onceacop · Post by **onceacop** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:27 pm

There is chatter about a high speed buzz job and collision with water.

Justwannafly · Post by **Justwannafly** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:29 pm

2milefinal wrote:
Bobby868 wrote:umm just a guess, glassy water landing gone really really bad. But wowhow hard and deep would you have to hit to shear the floats clean off?
and keep it up-right?.....i dont get any of this

Nore do I...not to mention...HOW did the 2 people in the BACK get thrown out of the plane?...they say they fell from 40' how?

180 · Post by **180** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:23 pm

Wow! Luckyyyyyyyyyyyyyy...

goldeneagle · Post by **goldeneagle** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:14 am

Sounds like they hit the water in such a way, it sheared off the floats, and, with the rear attach point went the floor of the rear passenger compartment, complete with seats attached...

Justwannafly · Post by **Justwannafly** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:36 am

well good job landing it afterwords in the grass with no landing gear & a bunch of foor missing

bandit1 · Post by **bandit1** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:55 am

If you hit the water hard enough to rip the floats off, logically, and in most all other cases, the plane flips. I know a guy that was buzzing a river in a 180, got to low hit the water and the plane cartwheeled.

Wouldn't you have to hit a dock or maybe a boat to rip the floats off?

Also, the float attach points are pretty solid.

Landlocked · Post by **Landlocked** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:59 am

** Report created 10/30/2006 Record 9 **
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 9117T Make/Model: C180 Description: 180, Skywagon 180 (U-17C)
Date: 10/28/2006 Time: 1651

Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial

LOCATION
City: FOREST LAKE State: MN Country: US

DESCRIPTION
ACFT LOST POWER, FLOATS FELL OFF, TWO PASSENGERS JUMPED OUT INTO THE LAKE,
THE PILOT WAS THEN ABLE TO LAND AT A GRASS STIP, FOREST LAKE, MN

INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

WEATHER: METAR KROS 281636Z AUTO 29009KT 10SM CLR 06/M03 A2978

OTHER DATA
Activity: Pleasure Phase: Cruise Operation: OTHER

Departed: FOREST LAKE, MN Dep Date: Dep. Time:
Destination: Flt Plan: Wx Briefing:
Last Radio Cont:
Last Clearance:

FAA FSDO: MINNEAPOLIS, MN (GL15) Entry date: 10/30/2006
_________________

Bubbaganoosh · Post by **Bubbaganoosh** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:31 am

goldeneagle wrote:Sounds like they hit the water in such a way, it sheared off the floats, and, with the rear attach point went the floor of the rear passenger compartment, complete with seats attached...

If that is what happened, the friggin strut attach points at the fuse would have let go as well and it would have been end of story. Something highly fishy about this crap, except, oh well - female pilots

them and float planes don't mix well, sorry folks, not meaning to sound like a mcp, but women and floaters are a bad combo.

Landlocked · Post by **Landlocked** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:33 am

Read the report, it says the females jumped out...must have assumed it was a better option than the belly landing.

Donald · Post by **Donald** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:34 am

sorry folks, not meaning to sound like a mcp, but women and floaters are a bad combo.

Absolutely no way to justify this comment. You are a moron.

Bubbaganoosh · Post by **Bubbaganoosh** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:41 pm

Donald wrote:
sorry folks, not meaning to sound like a mcp, but women and floaters are a bad combo.

Sorry, i can justify it, I have seen some scary ass female float drivers - you on the other hand have not, or you would not be getting all pissy on me. Lots of women make excellent drivers, not many seem to want to get into float flying, maybe this was a male driving for this accident, whatever, I've been there and that is why I made the statement.

Donald · Post by **Donald** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:02 pm

Am I supposed to believe that guys are exempt from being "scary ass float drivers"? I bet if I were to look up accident reports and Cadors that the overwhelming majority would be from guys.

I'm guessing that somebody got beat out for a job by a female and now goes around with a mighty big chip on their shoulder. Am I close?

TerrainTerrain · Post by **TerrainTerrain** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:33 pm

sorry folks, not meaning to sound like a mcp, but women and floaters are a bad combo.

Sorry, i can justify it, I have seen some scary ass female float drivers - you on the other hand have not, or you would not be getting all pissy on me. Lots of women make excellent drivers, not many seem to want to get into float flying, maybe this was a male driving for this accident, whatever, I've been there and that is why I made the statement.

You're going to die alone, and maybe a virgin too. I can see the line up of girls on the horizon who desperately want a guy who paints all female float drivers with the same brush. I just hope one day you say something like that to the wrong person. The industry is clogged with pilots. Time to weed out the bad apples.

bmc · Post by **bmc** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:05 am

Bubbaganoosh wrote:
Donald wrote:
sorry folks, not meaning to sound like a mcp, but women and floaters are a bad combo.

Sorry, i can justify it, I have seen some scary ass female float drivers - you on the other hand have not, or you would not be getting all pissy on me. Lots of women make excellent drivers, not many seem to want to get into float flying, maybe this was a male driving for this accident, whatever, I've been there and that is why I made the statement.

That's really ignorant. Do you have any education?

Kilo-Kilo · Post by **Kilo-Kilo** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:41 am

Witnesses said the plane's pontoons -- the floats that cover the aircraft's landing gear and enable it to land on water --

I thought wheel pants cover the aircraft's landing gear...glad the media set me straight.

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:50 am

cpt sweet'njuicy wrote:...its important to note their gender here...ever seen the neighbour lady pull up with the entire gas hose still in the fuelling hole followed by a police cruiser ... how can you get past a piece of nylon strapped around your body?

But nobody says boo about this? LOL...

About the incident though, pretty amazing that nobody was hurt, probably a few bumps and bruises from a 40' fall. And from the pics, nice belly up landing on the grass.

niss · Post by **niss** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:59 am

I bet if I were to look up accident reports and Cadors that the overwhelming majority would be from guys.

Not to defend what babaganoosh said but you probably would, i think it has more to do with the fact that there are probably more men flying than there are women.

MUSKEG · Post by **MUSKEG** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:08 am

I don't know what the problem is here. The reporter said the floats covering the landing gear were ripped off which means they should have still had landing gear. Never tell the media even the time of day, they will screw that up as well.

TerrainTerrain · Post by **TerrainTerrain** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:38 pm

Clodhopper wrote:
cpt sweet'njuicy wrote:...its important to note their gender here...ever seen the neighbour lady pull up with the entire gas hose still in the fuelling hole followed by a police cruiser ... how can you get past a piece of nylon strapped around your body?
But nobody says boo about this? LOL...

About the incident though, pretty amazing that nobody was hurt, probably a few bumps and bruises from a 40' fall. And from the pics, nice belly up landing on the grass.

Yea. Amazing El Capitan isn't spiralling this thread into deletion as well.

Raybanman · Post by **Raybanman** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:34 pm

"Also, the float attach points are pretty solid."

Maybe, but how often have they been hammered onto/out of rough water by a ham-fisted driver? And how often have they been inspected?