Now this guy hates the Snowbirds...

Pith Helmet · Post by **Pith Helmet** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:19 am

Snowbird Haita

H · Post by H » Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:34 am

2milefinal · Post by **2milefinal** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:54 am

"...........f%$#KING moops"
Thats to funny

niss · Post by **niss** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:59 am

What were they flying? What happened? The aircraft filming was on short final and they had to go around? is that what I got from it?

Kilo-Kilo · Post by **Kilo-Kilo** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:14 pm

niss wrote:What were they flying? What happened? The aircraft filming was on short final and they had to go around? is that what I got from it?

Read the description to the upper right.

mellow_pilot · Post by **mellow_pilot** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:26 pm

So the instructor f-ed up the circuit spacing and blames the other guy...

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:42 pm

sounded like Beechy's voice

TheCheez · Post by **TheCheez** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:42 pm

I guess it was only a matter of time before this one got out

shitdisturber · Post by **shitdisturber** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:44 pm

mellow_pilot wrote:So the instructor f-ed up the circuit spacing and blames the other guy...

Actually, no; they were doing a low and over, spacing is irrelevant. The instructor's problem with the Snowbirds is the arrogance and superioity complex they frequently display. I won't say all of them, but quite often the first timers and the younger ones can be very hard to take. When I was posted to Comox; we didn't have a problem with the pilots but there weren't too many of us who weren't ready to strangle the Snowbirds groundcrew, for some odd reason they seem to get the superiority complex the worst.

no name · Post by **no name** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:45 pm

hehe, too funny. Did he not make the team?

But seriously, I could see that pissing oof the instructors if it happened all the time...

Rockie · Post by **Rockie** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:12 pm

Sounds to me the instructor was just bringing a little levity into the cockpit. Military flight training is stressful with the requirement to constantly perform or get shown the door. A little fun at the Snowbirds expense in the circuit helps out the student a great deal, as does the Kudos for the well flown closed pattern the instructor gave him. It is such a small base the instructor is probably very good friends with several of the team members, and has nothing whatsoever against them.

As the cops say "nothing to see hear folks". Just a little fun.

Edelweiss air · Post by **Edelweiss air** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:09 pm

lmao

Dust Devil · Post by **Dust Devil** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:22 pm

Viking 6 clear low approach right of right and my instructor says @#$! off!!!!!!

FamilyGuy · Post by **FamilyGuy** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:17 pm

How do I copy that? That being the video, not the "other stuff".

Funny stuff and fwiw I don't think it's student/instruction (Viking).

gryphon · Post by **gryphon** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:46 pm

Viking could still be a student-instructor combo.
That's interesting!!! It can be a hectic spot at the best of times, add in a 9 plane form take off and people can get a little edgy. After listening to it a second time, I definitely know the guy flying (not the colour commentator)....that calls for an email!!

Kelowna Pilot · Post by **Kelowna Pilot** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:22 pm

I always assumed Snowbird pilots would be a cut above the rest and be extra professional, cool and calm.

Guess I was wrong.

Watching that video will make me think twice before going to a Snowbird shows. Hate to think the guy above the crowd has the emotional self control of some 15 year-old punk kid.

Dust Devil · Post by **Dust Devil** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:27 pm

Kelowna Pilot wrote:I always assumed Snowbird pilots would be a cut above the rest and be extra professional, cool and calm.

Guess I was wrong.

Watching that video will make me think twice before going to a Snowbird shows. Hate to think the guy above the crowd has the emotional self control of some 15 year-old punk kid.

Where did you get the idea that the plane in the air was a snowbird?

linecrew · Post by **linecrew** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:08 pm

Kelowna Pilot wrote:I always assumed Snowbird pilots would be a cut above the rest and be extra professional, cool and calm.

Guess I was wrong.

Watching that video will make me think twice before going to a Snowbird shows. Hate to think the guy above the crowd has the emotional self control of some 15 year-old punk kid.

The Snowbirds are rolling in three groups of three as these guys are told to do the low and over to their right. Watch the video carefully and you can fainlty see them on the runway. The instructor in the Hawk is the guy venting.

Blakey · Post by **Blakey** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:18 pm

I'm betting that Viking 6 doesn't get the opposing solo spot next year!

. ._ · Post by **. ._** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:40 pm

I didn't see any Snowbirds, all I saw was some guy doing a low and over off to the side of a runway. He was cleared for it, so what's with all the swearing?

And if you do a low and over, shouldn't you be over the runway kinda?

I obviously have lost my situational awareness, and need another beer.

WTF?

-istp

shitdisturber · Post by **shitdisturber** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:11 pm

istp wrote:I didn't see any Snowbirds, all I saw was some guy doing a low and over off to the side of a runway. He was cleared for it, so what's with all the swearing?

And if you do a low and over, shouldn't you be over the runway kinda?

I obviously have lost my situational awareness, and need another beer.

WTF?

-istp

Look closer, they're there.

Doing a low and over above the runway when nine planes are on the takeoff roll is kinda risky don't you think?

gryphon · Post by **gryphon** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 9:13 pm

istp wrote:I didn't see any Snowbirds, all I saw was some guy doing a low and over off to the side of a runway. He was cleared for it, so what's with all the swearing?

And if you do a low and over, shouldn't you be over the runway kinda?

I obviously have lost my situational awareness, and need another beer.

WTF?

-istp

Viking 6 was cleared 'right of right', meaning a low approach right of the the right parallel (forget the rwy numbers).........a procedural thing in Moose Jaw. He was perturbed cause he was rolling in a mile final and they cleared the Snowbirds for departure (which isn't, from what I recall, a quick process).

. ._ · Post by **. ._** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 9:40 pm

AHHH!!

After 6 beers, I see it!

I thought those were runway markings.

No, there were 3 elements of 3 taking off line abreast!

DUUHHH!!

That all makes sense now. Thanks guys.

I still can't understand how someone would get pissed off at free funky-jet time. Doing low and overs. Having fun at cranking a 90 degree bank in the circuit.

I dunno, maybe the instructor had to take a piss or something.

In any case, I say- let me up in a Hawk, and I won't be badmouthing anyone on the runway. Shit, I'll call in hazatude to have the bowser "break down" on the numbers!

-istp

bmc · Post by **bmc** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 12:45 am

shitdisturber wrote:
istp wrote:I didn't see any Snowbirds, all I saw was some guy doing a low and over off to the side of a runway. He was cleared for it, so what's with all the swearing?

And if you do a low and over, shouldn't you be over the runway kinda?

I obviously have lost my situational awareness, and need another beer.

WTF?

-istp
Look closer, they're there.

Doing a low and over above the runway when nine planes are on the takeoff roll is kinda risky don't you think?

They're Tudors. I think they rotate at 25kts and climb out at 30 (with JATO)

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-istp