Multi PIC piston vs. turbine FO time

Rossito · Post by **Rossito** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:55 pm

If a person can choose what type of time to build, what is considered more important by the airlines for employment, multi PIC piston time or FO turbine time??

Assuming all basic requiremtnts are met (i.e. ATPL), with lots of PIC time and say 100hrs multi PIC.

Which would you choose and why!

Clarence · Post by **Clarence** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:03 pm

Just my 2cents but I think they all went to see turbine time before they take you on

Out of Control · Post by **Out of Control** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:20 pm

PIC PIC PIC

Clarence · Post by **Clarence** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:48 pm

Out of Control wrote:PIC PIC PIC

ok so you could be right but if he has "lots of PIC time" time then the turbine would be the right move? He would get to log some of it

merlin · Post by **merlin** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:28 pm

If you have lots of PIC and Multi PIC (even piston) you won't have to be a turbine f/o. Someone will put you straight into the left side of a turbine.

Scuba_Steve · Post by **Scuba_Steve** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:42 pm

Its all about the command time, turbine will come. get 500 or so Multi PIC (or hell more if you can) and you'll be laughing. You'll get that turbine job, be FO until you learn the aircraft then slide over.

Cheers

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:12 pm

what merlin said - MPIC all the way.

bob sacamano · Post by **bob sacamano** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:30 pm

Go where you think would help you better to reach your goal.

How long f/o turbine till you go left seat? Pay difference?

At the end, PIC is what counts.

Dust Devil · Post by **Dust Devil** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:10 pm

Out of Control wrote:PIC PIC PIC

True dat.

Flybaby · Post by **Flybaby** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:19 pm

bob sacamano wrote:

Multi time is like sex.
Many souls roam the earth in search of it.
Some are willing to pay for it ,
Some want it for cheap,
Some want it for free,
and,
Some want to get paid for it.

Good luck in your journey, and remember, since it's just like sex, always be safe

Wasn't Me · Post by **Wasn't Me** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:07 am

Turbine wins easily. That's been my experience.

Captain Kangaroo · Post by **Captain Kangaroo** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:05 am

flyinhigh · Post by **flyinhigh** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:19 pm

Depending on what your experience is to date,

I'd be going with the Multi-PIC until you have at least 500 hours Of MPIC, than do the transition. Employers will look at you with more regard when you apply to them.

Case in point, say the industry slows up again, you take the turbine FO postion, it will be harder for yourself to get on somewhere as captain on an aircraft as your PIC time is not there.

Also, if you are actually asking this question I don't think that you need to be worrying about the majors yet as I am guessing your hours are not up there that much, I could be wrong though.

Best of luck with your decision

Justwannafly · Post by **Justwannafly** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:31 pm

Simple....PIC on a Turbine

wallypilot · Post by **wallypilot** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:31 pm

Multi PIC. 'nuff said.

bandit1 · Post by **bandit1** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:59 am

ok so here's one for ya-

MPIC piston or Single turbine PIC?

flyinhigh · Post by **flyinhigh** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:42 am

Multi PIC, why perfect example.

We got 2 individuals that got 4K on the caravan and are not able to fly MOH flights because they only got 50 hours multi pic, so they are having to build up there multipic on the chartered end only.

Multi pic is the way to go until you got some time on them

2R · Post by 2R » Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:46 am

That is because the MOH are not familiar with modern aircraft .They have only been building Caravans since 1985 .
They would rather have someone who has flown a piece of shit multi- piston than someone who has flown a Modern turbine fully equiped with GPS ,Radar,Auto-pilot,
Luddittes have a better understanding of the new machines than some of those guys.

cyyz · Post by **cyyz** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:42 pm

2R wrote:That is because the MOH are not familiar with modern aircraft .They have only been building Caravans since 1985 .
They would rather have someone who has flown a piece of shit multi- piston than someone who has flown a Modern turbine fully equiped with GPS ,Radar,Auto-pilot,
Luddittes have a better understanding of the new machines than some of those guys.

/correct, along with flyinhigh in regards to Bandit.

piston Multi PIC vs F/O Turbine

PA-44 or C310 vs Metro, P180, KA, ATR, 1900,

I'll take the F/O gig, because atleast, even in the worst case scenario you'll probably be making more than the PIC of the two pistons, and you probably didn't pay for the PPC, you'll also be at a place which will eventually promote you... Basically and yes it's apples to oranges, NxXjet vs Georgian, CMA, Perimeter, First Air.

PIC time at Buffalo airways vs a small charter outfit with 1 KA or a PA-31T or PA-42 f/o time.

I'd take the DC-3 time, why pay for the PCC at the smaller place.

I think from the way I look at it...

Time is great and dandy, yes, PIC vs F/O matters, but it should also depend on WHERE you work and how many people work with you, if it's a 1 plane op and you're SPIFR 24/7(minus CARS legalities) where is the networking, why would the next place hire you when they can hire their friends that they worked the ramp with at their last gig.

And when it comes to the big airlines, where you might be a number, the seminole time won't get you anywhere vs the 2 crew aircraft time. I'd also take the PIC EFIS PC-12 time vs the PIC seminole time, because they usually atleast looking at the emirates application, it's time, category and EFIS.