New TC Pilot Licence

B777 · Post by **B777** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:38 pm

Greetings.....

Just wondring if any one has an idea when the new Pilot licence well be relesed ?

and how it looks like ?

Golden Flyer · Post by **Golden Flyer** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:49 pm

B777 wrote:Greetings.....

Just wondring if any one has an idea when the new Pilot licence well be relesed ?

and how it looks like ?

Are they going to be cars this time (i.e. drivers liscense). I hate the paper shit!

Grey_Wolf · Post by **Grey_Wolf** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:04 pm

TC approves new licence format
Transport Canada (TC) Personnel Licencing received final approval in early June to proceed with a plan to replace existing pilot and ATC licences with a new style licence document.

TC had long ago identified the current paper licences are far from ideal. As government documents they do not provide good security and have no photograph of the holder associated with them.

Furthermore, they require a separate medical certificate to validate them. In the case of commercial pilots, additional pieces of paper to validate the licence are also required, such as Pilot Proficiency Check cards.

TC managers decided that the new licence format must include secure photo identification along with a means of showing all licences held, medical certificates including renewal stamps, PPCs etc, in one document.

The best way of accomplishing this goal was to create a multi-page booklet-format document that resembles a passport.

In fact the new licence will be printed by the same company that produces the current Canadian passports. It will be the same size, shape and made of the same paper as the Canadian passport.

The commonality with the passport results in a significant cost savings over any other format. The new licences will be issued to existing licence holders at no cost and will include the new language proficiency rating.

Pilots and ATC licence holders will be required to provide a photograph for the identification page of the licence. This may either be a current passport photo, with a guarantor’s signature or a photo taken at a Transport Canada office.

Pilots and controllers applying for new licences will continue to pay the existing fee for licence issue.

The new licence will be valid for five years. The previous licence was valid indefinitely, but the presence of a photograph on any government identification requires a valid term of no more than five years. This means you will need a new photo and licence every five years.

The new licence format has some distinct advantages to pilots. It will provide a secure licence that will combine all needed personal aviation documents into one booklet and is easy to carry.

And the secure photograph should make identifying yourself at airports easier.

Existing licence holders should receive a notice from TC in the near future asking them to provide a photograph and giving instructions on how to do that.

The new licences should be in the mail to existing licence holders some time in mid-2007.

Because the format for licences is not specified in the CARs, TC has no requirement to consult with industry on licence format, although they have kept COPA and other associations informed as the new format has been developed.

RVR6000 · Post by **RVR6000** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:36 pm

Booooo, I don't want to be paying every 5 years to renew a licence. Also being passport size you can't carry in your wallet.

200hr Wonder · Post by **200hr Wonder** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:59 pm

And it does not fit in my fancy license holder!

What about those of us who can not go to a TC office to get our picture taken... that cost anywhere from $15 to $20 for a passport photo set and we have to a guarantor to sign it! That will be tough for those of us who are transient. Seems like a pain in the ass for something that is not much better.

Zapp Brannigan · Post by **Zapp Brannigan** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:30 pm

Maybe its just me, but having a booklet that includes everything is alot better than a bunch of piece of shit papers. Photo ID included seems smart in terms of security as well.

The only thing that may suck is having to pay more in the future. If they use the current licensing fees I have no complaints.

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:44 pm

Does it include your Restricted Radiotelephone Operator's Certificate?

RVR6000 · Post by **RVR6000** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:40 pm

Is it really neceassary, when was the last time you heard someone faking a pilot licence.

mellow_pilot · Post by **mellow_pilot** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:10 pm

We're all gonna get boned another 50 bucks every five years...

Golden Flyer · Post by **Golden Flyer** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:33 pm

Damn, why don't just configure everything and issue a damn card? Everything else I've seen is a card (Mexico, FAA, [JAA?])

MVFR · Post by **MVFR** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:25 pm

Does it include your Restricted Radiotelephone Operator's Certificate?

yes

rotateandfly · Post by **rotateandfly** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:46 pm

I cant believe this is happening! On the one hand sure a new booklet is attractive but who wants to pay every 5 years? What about pilots such as myself who are currently out of the country who cant just send in the pictures?

I liked it the way it was, licence valid indefinitely, just care to renew your medical every so and so often.. argh!

My medical-renewal is due in August, i was planning on doing it in the spring already, should i wait for the new licence or get it stamped on my old medical??

trey kule · Post by **trey kule** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:21 pm

Ihave to wonder if you will have to pay up all those medical fees and any other fees before the good folks at TC will renew your license in five years.

For those who have only one license, it might be time to think about getting an FAA license (not validation) or other equally good one.

BTD · Post by **BTD** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:33 pm

RVR6000 wrote:Is it really neceassary, when was the last time you heard someone faking a pilot licence.

Actually I had a chat with a TC person about the change. And apparently they have been faked. Many Times.

niko · Post by **niko** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:31 pm

JAA's is in booklet format

Justwannafly · Post by **Justwannafly** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:31 pm

BTD wrote:
RVR6000 wrote:Is it really neceassary, when was the last time you heard someone faking a pilot licence.
Actually I had a chat with a TC person about the change. And apparently they have been faked. Many Times.

oh yea they have...but WHY the booklet?...why can't we have the Credit Card like the FAA?

aileron · Post by **aileron** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:30 am

So much for putting your license in the back pocket!

Golden Flyer · Post by **Golden Flyer** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:52 am

Justwannafly wrote:
BTD wrote:
RVR6000 wrote:Is it really neceassary, when was the last time you heard someone faking a pilot licence.
Actually I had a chat with a TC person about the change. And apparently they have been faked. Many Times.
oh yea they have...but WHY the booklet?...why can't we have the Credit Card like the FAA?

That's what the F*&K I'm saying....

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:55 am

A driver's license can be on one card.....but a pilot license can't? All medical info can be on the black strip. Type ratings printed on the front? Too simple? Just like TC. SIMPLE!

End of the road · Post by **End of the road** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:56 pm

Now I have to modify my morning reminder rhyme from:
"Testicles, spectacles, wallet and watch” to "Testicles, spectacles, wallet and watch and the pants with big pockets that will hold the Transport Canada Licence book so I won't get a ticket when I get ramp checked. Ah hell, that won't work. I'll never remember that.

Now I'll end up being a late broke blind pilot with no balls and a violation.

Golden Flyer · Post by **Golden Flyer** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:23 pm

How about we get Cat to contact this mob by the name of Transport Canada!

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:32 pm

Golden Flyer, there are many things in life I have learned to understand and deal with.....

.....but alas you ask far to much.

TCCA is beyond communicating with as they are only able to communicate one way, they could care less what you or anyone else thinks because they are unacountable....And that is the simple fact of the matter.

Best avoid them wherever possible and do everything in your power to evade or circumvate them....in fact it is best to never be truthful with any TCCA employe use their tactics, lie to them if it best suits your agenda.

Cat

Golden Flyer · Post by **Golden Flyer** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:35 pm

Cat Driver wrote:Golden Flyer, there are many things in life I have learned to understand and deal with.....

.....but alas you ask far to much.

TCCA is beyond communicating with as they are only able to communicate one way, they could care less what you or anyone else thinks because they are unacountable....And that is the simple fact of the matter.

Best avoid them wherever possible and do everything in your power to evade or circumvate them....in fact it is best to never be truthful with any TCCA employe use their tactics, lie to them if it best suits your agenda.

Cat

Ya, let em' be... I don't deal with them too much anyways! The whole airline thing seems kinda twisted to me right now, so I doubt I will ever have to run into them too much, unless I ever decide to purchase an aircraft. Hoping that I can as soon as I get rid of OSAP and the others...

niss · Post by **niss** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:22 am

Will this be concidered appropriate ID for entering the US?

mellow_pilot · Post by **mellow_pilot** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:50 am

I wouldn't bank on it.

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