Harmony throwing in the towel?

Flightlevels · Post by **Flightlevels** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:09 am

Apparently stopping the new YYC-YVR flights with the RJ and purchasing the presold seats on Westjet. I have noticed you can book in the spring of 2007 though. I suspect voyageur will get a nice chunk of change from a breach of contract. Anyone else know much about this?

pika · Post by **pika** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:02 am

I suspect voyageur will get a nice chunk of change from a breach of contract.

How long was the contract for?

flynbutcher · Post by **flynbutcher** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:19 am

I wonder if KR still has some arrangement with them.

EyeOh · Post by **EyeOh** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:51 pm

Not a suprise. Loads couldnt keep a King Air going.

wallypilot · Post by **wallypilot** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:06 pm

too bad....i flew on that run a few times. service was great and the price was right.

YVR Dude · Post by **YVR Dude** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:25 pm

as far as I know, there was no breach of contract as the contract was for only a few months with an option to extend...the RJ was an experiment to see what the loads would be like...and they did find out!

Cheers

prop2jet · Post by **prop2jet** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:19 pm

Hmmm...pretty expensive testing of the waters... anyone with half a clue about the industry could have told em that it was a money losing proposition.

YVRflyer · Post by **YVRflyer** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:45 am

No breach of contract. The contract was not renewed / extended. As far as I know YYC was added as a 3 month test on request from Asian Interline and Code share partners for connecting passengers.

turbofishkiller · Post by **turbofishkiller** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:11 am

YVR Dude wrote:...the RJ was an experiment to see what the loads would be like...and they did find out!

Cheers

Actually the RJ was a short term contract to cover code share agreements with China Eastern and Cathay to carry PAX from china to Calgary so that the asian carriers could sell seats to that destination.

Nightflight · Post by **Nightflight** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 3:40 pm

Heard that an RJ will be going to the dark continent this spring.

CanadaEH · Post by **CanadaEH** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:45 am

Harmony is returning 1 757 to its lessor at the end of March.. rumor has it another will be as well.

Stay tuned.

2low · Post by **2low** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:12 pm

How many do they have?

RB211 · Post by **RB211** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:50 pm

CanadaEH wrote:Harmony is returning 1 757 to its lessor at the end of March.. rumor has it another will be as well.

Stay tuned.

They are currently negotiating with the leasing company to retain the 757 whose lease concludes the end of March. That is the only one of the 4 that may be returned.

As you say, stay tuned.

CanadaEH · Post by **CanadaEH** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:15 pm

As you say, stay tuned.

Standing by.

The Raven · Post by **The Raven** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:59 pm

I see the WestJet vultures are circling.

2low · Post by **2low** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:23 pm

Ya Harmony going under would benefit them soo much.

The two airlines have nothing in common.

CanadaEH · Post by **CanadaEH** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:33 pm

I see the WestJet vultures are circling.

Why is it whenever a comment is made about another airline people resort to stupid comments like yours? I've heard from two sources within Harmony that have said one aircraft is being returned to its lessor at the end of March. I'm not jumping for joy - I'm simply sharing what I've been told... like the information or not.

BTW - some airlines stand out like a sore thumb to claim the title of "the next airline to fold" (a la Jetsgo); others jump out and surprise you (a la Canjet). This is an industry with a hell of a lot of obstacles to overcome whether you're 1 aircraft or 1000 and sometimes certain things jump out at you and make you go hmmmm........... something like Harmony dropping an aircraft is one of those, sorry to say. You can shoot the messenger all you want but this messenger has had nothing but good things to say about HMY and wishes nothing more than for Harmony to continue keeping some of his friends employed.

tincanflyer · Post by **tincanflyer** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:38 pm

from yyznews.com-
Harmony Has applied for Fiji and Australia ---has applied to the CTA for permission to operate a scheduled international passenger service between points in Canada and Australia and Fiji. The applications specifically mention code- sharing only. The CTA has granted the necessary licenses and Harmony is now free to negotiate a code-share arrangement with other airlines to serve these points.

Troubleshot · Post by **Troubleshot** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:39 pm

Harmony's 757's (1 or more) are getting scooped up my Zoom this year...just heard like an hour ago...maybe bullshit but I don't think so.

CanadaEH · Post by **CanadaEH** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:29 pm

Harmony Has applied for Fiji and Australia ---has applied to the CTA for permission to operate a scheduled international passenger service between points in Canada and Australia and Fiji. The applications specifically mention code- sharing only. The CTA has granted the necessary licenses and Harmony is now free to negotiate a code-share arrangement with other airlines to serve these points.

Code-sharing agreement is in place with Hawaiian.

bmc · Post by **bmc** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:03 am

Flightlevels wrote:Apparently stopping the new YYC-YVR flights with the RJ and purchasing the presold seats on Westjet. I have noticed you can book in the spring of 2007 though. I suspect voyageur will get a nice chunk of change from a breach of contract. Anyone else know much about this?

What was the escape clause in the contract?

RB211 · Post by **RB211** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:48 am

bmc wrote:
Flightlevels wrote:Apparently stopping the new YYC-YVR flights with the RJ and purchasing the presold seats on Westjet. I have noticed you can book in the spring of 2007 though. I suspect voyageur will get a nice chunk of change from a breach of contract. Anyone else know much about this?
What was the escape clause in the contract?

As was mentioned previously, the contract was for the summer schedule only. The flights ended when the contract ended. It was put in place to honour some inter-line arrangements with Asian carriers.

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