Drinking & Driving...why?

flyincanuck · Post by **flyincanuck** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:09 am

Seriously. When are people gonna get the point!?

Was at a pretty grussum accident last night, where the front pax was thrown through the windshield and killed.

Have a great New Years with your friends and loved ones, but leave the keys behind when you hit the bottle.

200hr Wonder · Post by **200hr Wonder** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:33 am

272-1111.... # to the local cab company.... there is a reason it is on speed dial

Brewguy · Post by **Brewguy** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:42 am

I find New Year's to be about the worst holiday for this. I had a very close call with a drunk driver a few years back - just missed being hit by a few inches.

Ever since, I pretty well stay home with the family on New Year's Eve .... just too many drunks on the road. It's a real shame that a few idiots that can't / don't / won't get the message go and ruin things for everyone.

bandaid · Post by **bandaid** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:51 pm

I ask the same question everytime I attend a drinking driver accident.

Sasquash · Post by **Sasquash** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 2:55 pm

Had to do a NOK ( Next of kin) notification in my former life as a result of an impaired driver accident. Driver and his friend up front the two girl friends in the back. High speed and the car missed the railway bridge ended up at the bottom at night. All DOA except, of course, the driver. Talked to the parent of one of the girl to let them know she won't be coming home anymore. Took us about an hour to ID the #2 disfigured girl in the back, the 18 year old twin sister... had to go back to the parent for visit no 2. that one really sucked. I still have chills thinking about it.

Take it easy on the sauce, guys..

flyincanuck · Post by **flyincanuck** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:44 pm

you've gotta be kidding me! A drunk flipped his car and totaled my gf's tonight!

This is retarded

edit: no one was in her car...it was parked

Lurch · Post by **Lurch** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:47 pm

Sasquash wrote:Had to do a NOK ( Next of kin) notification in my former life as a result of an impaired driver accident. Driver and his friend up front the two girl friends in the back. High speed and the car missed the railway bridge ended up at the bottom at night. All DOA except, of course, the driver. Talked to the parent of one of the girl to let them know she won't be coming home anymore. Took us about an hour to ID the #2 disfigured girl in the back, the 18 year old twin sister... had to go back to the parent for visit no 2. that one really sucked. I still have chills thinking about it.

Take it easy on the sauce, guys..

All I have to say is if you DUI and somebody is killed you should be charged with 1st Degree Murder.

Three counts one accident, see you in 20 years.

beechy · Post by **beechy** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 9:39 am

odd how alcohol a substance which is responsible for so many ruined marriages, so many senseless deaths and just all around asshole-ish behavior is sold to anyone over 18 (or 19).........but it is still illegal to buy weed, or smoke a joint before bed and to pay for a blowjob.

Lets not forget this holiday season to avoid driving well flat out exhausted too....it actually kills more people then drunk driving. Unless of course you want to help the world through population control.

niwre · Post by **niwre** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 4:53 am

Lurch wrote: All I have to say is if you DUI and somebody is killed you should be charged with 1st Degree Murder.

You would only get second at best. I am all for sending them to jail but have to prove intent and delibrate.

There act may have been delibrate but was there intent to kill? You still get to go to the big house for a long time but 1st degree is hard to proove even when someone is used a gun at times.

niss · Post by **niss** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:17 pm

beechy wrote:but it is still illegal to buy weed, or smoke a joint before bed and to pay for a blowjob.

You can pay for a blowjob but you just cant communicate your intentions.

taxiway_matthew · Post by **taxiway_matthew** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:40 pm

Some of you may know how the three lane system on the Lions Gate bridge works...well we saw atleast 2 drunks in the wrong lane, speeding, into on coming traffic

2R · Post by 2R » Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:23 am

Drunks are said to cause one third of all accidents.If Two thirds are caused by sober drivers why not make compulsory to drink and drive as drunks cause less accidents than sober people ???

TM how did you know they were drunks racing like that ???Sober or drunk being in the wrong lane is unsafe.Sober or Drunk Street Racing is unsafe.
Bad driving is often blamed on the drink but they are some shockingly bad rude drivers out there.Those bad drivers need to be taken off the Roads for good.Maybe then people would take responsibility for their actions.If more dangerous drivers was taken off the road for good perhaps people would drive in a more courteous and safe manner.
And less people would drink and drive because of having to be held responsible for their actions and activities sober or drunk.

The present Laws do little to address the harm done in motorvehicle accidents sober or drunk.
If we are to make people more responsible for their actions the Impaired defence must be weakened .So that if you harm somone you cannot use the excuse the Evil drink made me do it excuse.
We also need to get bad drivers sober or drunk off the road for good.
The safer they build the cars the more dangerous the driving has become.Perhaps if we limited drunks to mopeds after conviction the only people they would hurt in an accident would be themselves.

flyincanuck · Post by **flyincanuck** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:19 pm

2R wrote:Drunks are said to cause one third of all accidents.If Two thirds are caused by sober drivers why not make compulsory to drink and drive as drunks cause less accidents than sober people ???

You're kidding right?

2R wrote: Bad driving is often blamed on the drink but they are some shockingly bad rude drivers out there.

Drunk drivers are accountable for more fatal accidents than the "bad rude driver".

2R wrote: Perhaps if we limited drunks to mopeds after conviction the only people they would hurt in an accident would be themselves.

What a redeeming comment. That is awesome!!

still_bluenoser · Post by **still_bluenoser** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:12 pm

DAMM is looking for new members if anyone on here is interested?

(Drunks Against Mad Mothers)

cloudcounter · Post by **cloudcounter** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:28 pm

Gutsy group MADD!

They dont buy that the cream of kids should die on the highway because retards think booze and substance abuse is OK
cc

still_bluenoser wrote:DAMM is looking for new members if anyone on here is interested?

(Drunks Against Mad Mothers)

2R · Post by 2R » Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:59 pm

Guts and emotional rants have not really solved the problems that society faces with regards to addressing the harm done by irresponsible people.
If a person is made responsible for their actions rather than the present "defence of being drunk "absolving the offender against being held entirely responsible for their actions.
Diminished responsibilty is a fine defence for someone who is insane .It should not hold as much weight for a drunk or self-medicated person.

bandaid · Post by **bandaid** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:12 am

Calls relating to alcohol are probably the most common call that I do. It doesn't necessarily have to be drinking and driving but you can include major trauma from falls, domestic violence, exposure to the elements, interpersonal violence.......... the list is endless. Until your life has been touched by one of these events you fail to realise how tragic the outcomes can be on not only the persons involved but all the family and friends associated. I see that some have tried to make light of the intention of this post and I'm sorry to see that, it shows very little respect for those of us that have to do the NOK notifications or clean up the mess afterwards.
I have been touched many times by the feeling of loss from what is a totally avoidable event. If you drink and drive quit being so selfish and think about the others directly or indirectly that you will effect. It only takes one bad choice.

Apollo · Post by **Apollo** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:52 pm

I've got an idea... For the NoK notifications - why dont you make the sub-being (the DUI asswipe) do it. Make sure you give the NoK a fucking rusty blade first.

. ._ · Post by **. ._** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:01 am

bandaid wrote:Calls relating to alcohol are probably the most common call that I do. It doesn't necessarily have to be drinking and driving but you can include major trauma from falls, domestic violence, exposure to the elements, interpersonal violence.......... the list is endless. Until your life has been touched by one of these events you fail to realise how tragic the outcomes can be on not only the persons involved but all the family and friends associated. I see that some have tried to make light of the intention of this post and I'm sorry to see that, it shows very little respect for those of us that have to do the NOK notifications or clean up the mess afterwards.
I have been touched many times by the feeling of loss from what is a totally avoidable event. If you drink and drive quit being so selfish and think about the others directly or indirectly that you will effect. It only takes one bad choice.

How many calls do you get from guys spraining their thumbs from too much weed and Nintendo?

Just being a devil's advocate here. I wish I liked weed. It seems, logically, a much better drug than booze.

-istp

bandaid · Post by **bandaid** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:20 am

The thread was about drinking and driving I took some liberty with that as well by including other associated injuries relating to Alcohol. If you want to talk about what Marijuana, GHB, Cocaine, heroin....... and the toll that they take on society well I could go there even though the results are similar as those of alcohol. I think that it is fair to say that any drug that leads to an addiction or impairment can have the same results in the end.

cyyz · Post by **cyyz** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:31 am

Seriously. When are people gonna get the point!?

Was at a pretty grussum accident last night, where the front pax was thrown through the windshield and killed.

Sorry, just started reading, and haven't read anyones replies, but, just out of curiousity, how you and MADD would like to blame the death of a non seatbelt wearer on a drunk driver, and I'm not even sure who's car the tossed party was from.

I had a very close call with a drunk driver a few years back - just missed being hit by a few inches.

And you knew they were drunk, because.....

well we saw atleast 2 drunks in the wrong lane, speeding, into on coming traffic

Again, you knew they were drunk and speeding, how? and they didn't crash, you sure they were "drunk," I thought they're supposed to be impaired, they manage to avoid the oncomming traffic? Not bad...

Bad driving is often blamed on the drink but they are some shockingly bad rude drivers out there..........

Drunk drivers are accountable for more fatal accidents than the "bad rude driver".

I don't think drunk drivers are accountable at all, I think if you're drunk you're guilty, you could be sitting in your drive way, engine off, drunk as a kite, and if someone crashed into you, you'd be the one going to jail and getting a DUI...

because the cops, lawyers, judge and jury, would be going, "sure, you were just sitting there..."

I've driven drunk twice, and I took the side roads for both instances, and even though it was late in the evening, I still had people, tailing me, passing me, I'm sure some people/bikers could have jumped in front of me, cause they think they have the right of way regardless of stop signs and lights, and what not, and if anyone had hit me, it wouldn't have mattered, I'd have been the one in a jail cell. I'd have been the one paying extra insurance fees and losing my license.

I'm not an advocate for Drunk Drivers, but 0.8, lol, you can get that off 2 ounces of beer, just gargle/rinse wash it around in your mouth for 10 seconds and you'll blow over for about 2 minutes..... A beer and you'll blow over for about 10 minutes....

And anyways, the smart drunks won't even take the breathalyzer at the scene, they'll request a lawyer first, and by the time they get there, they're sober...

People on the internet(google it) have sites, how to beat a dui, how not to get charged, what to do if you're drunk and in an accident...

Personally, I'd perfer a 0.8 mario andretti on the road then some of our stereo typed poor drivers....

But whatever, you guys go ahead and think it's all the 0.8 drivers that are bad, and the guys putting on make up, getting a bj, eating, drinking, talking on their cells, are much safer and better...

PS. I'm not for the drunken drivers but I'm against the arbitrary .8 rule... Some .8ers probably drive much better then their sober counterparts, I have no excuse for the piss drunk drivers....

gonfly'n · Post by **gonfly'n** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:04 pm

just read the paper today,surprisingly there were not that many drivers charged with dui over the holiday in the hamilton and surrounding area. Hard to say how many slipped through. I think these ride programs work excellent. They seems to scare some sense into drunk drivers.

cyyz · Post by **cyyz** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:21 pm

Jack took a long look at his speedometer before slowing down: 73 in a 55 zone. Fourth time in as many months. How could a guy get caught so often?

When his car had slowed to 10 miles an hour, Jack pulled over, but only partially. Let the cop worry about the potential traffic hazard. Maybe some other car will tweak his backside with a mirror. The cop was stepping out of his car, the big pad in hand.

Bob? Bob from Church? Jack sunk farther into his trench coat. This was worse than the coming ticket. A cop catching a guy from his own church. A guy who happened to be a little eager to get home after a long day at the office. A guy he was about to play golf with tomorrow.

Jumping out of the car, he approached a man he saw every Sunday, a man he'd never seen in uniform.

"Hi, Bob. Fancy meeting you like this."

"Hello, Jack." No smile.

"Guess you caught me red-handed in a rush to see my wife and kids."
Yeah, I guess." Bob seemed uncertain. Good.

"I've seen some long days at the office lately. I'm afraid I bent the rules a bit -just this once."

Jack toed at a pebble on the pavement. "Diane said something about roast beef and potatoes tonight. Know what I mean?" "I know what you mean. I also know that you have a reputation in our precinct ." Ouch. This was not going in the right direction. Time to change tactics.

"What'd you clock me at?"

"Seventy. Would you sit back in your car please?"

"Now wait a minute here, Bob. I checked as soon as I saw you. I was barely nudging 65." The lie seemed to come easier with every ticket.

"Please, Jack, in the car"

Flustered, Jack hunched himself through the still-open door. Slamming it shut, he stared at the dashboard. He was in no rush to open the window.

The minutes ticked by. Bob scribbled away on the pad.

Why hadn't he asked for a driver's license?

Whatever the reason, it would be a month of Sundays before Jack ever sat near this cop again. A tap on the door jerked his head to the left. There was Bob, a folded paper in hand Jack rolled down the window a mere two inches, just enough room for Bob to pass him the slip.

"Thanks." Jack could not quite keep the sneer out of his voice.

Bob returned to his police car without a word. Jack watched his retreat in the mirror. Jack unfolded the sheet of paper. How much was this one going to cost?

Wait a minute. What was this? Some kind of joke?

Certainly not a ticket. Jack began to read:

"Dear Jack, Once upon a time I had a daughter. She was six when killed by a car. You guessed it- a speeding driver. A fine and three months in jail, and the man was free. Free to hug his daughters, all three of them. I only had one, and I'm going to have to wait until Heaven before I can ever hug her again.
A thousand times I've tried to forgive that man. A thousand times I thought I had. Maybe I did, but I need to do it again. Even now. Pray for me. And be careful, Jack, my son is all I have left."

"Bob"

Jack turned around in time to see Bob's car pull away and head down the road. Jack watched until it disappeared. A full 15 minutes later, he too, pulled away and drove slowly home, praying for forgiveness and hugging a surprised wife and kids when he arrived.

Life is precious. Handle with care. This is an important message; please pass it along to your friends. Drive safely and carefully. Remember, cars are not the only things recalled by their maker.

Funny how you can send a thousand jokes through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the sanctity of life, people think twice about sharing.

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