Real Bush Flying

c185 · Post by **c185** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:44 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgO_wThdnww

Boss Hawg · Post by **Boss Hawg** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:04 am

Make that a double

xsbank · Post by **xsbank** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:43 pm

We used to get rocks coming out of the ground like that at Scar Creek in Bute Inlet - the tailplane of the Islander was bashed flat.

This has been posted here before - maybe 30 times - but its still a goody.

Highsea · Post by **Highsea** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:06 pm

That's Cool.

Scar Creek now that's a fun strip to fly into, But I still like Woss with the chip plant they put on the end of runway

c185 · Post by **c185** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:42 pm

You just need the right plane for the right strip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BIJqb90S-8

twotter · Post by **twotter** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:31 pm

xsbank wrote:We used to get rocks coming out of the ground like that at Scar Creek in Bute Inlet - the tailplane of the Islander was bashed flat.

This has been posted here before - maybe 30 times - but its still a goody.

Come on.. Scar creek was always one of the better strips.. Not even close this.. I used to go into it with pavement airplanes.. Now when they first opened up the bunga bunga strip (now shearwater)...

2R · Post by 2R » Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:37 am

First time i was in Scar creek .I asked them to take the blade down the runway as it had great big boulders in the middle .The response from the logging guy was "Your the only one to complain "
A short time later one of the islanders going in there lost a prop on one of those boulders .It was found after a brief search of the pilots leg.As part of the the prop was embedded in the pilots leg.
The next time we went in they had taken most of the crap of the runway.
And the same guys complain about the cost of WCB in B.C.
Lazy or stupid either way someone was hurt there because the guy in charge was not proactive .The best part is the same guy that did not to improve the strip was on the airplane that lost the prop .Just a shame it was not his leg.

Jimmy Mack · Post by **Jimmy Mack** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:51 pm

I wonder what the life of the tailgear on thos cubs/champs is? They look like the sure get bounced around a whole lot, do they sell kits to reinforce them against cracking/breaking?

JM

Blue Side Down · Post by **Blue Side Down** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:37 am

Jimmy Mack wrote:I wonder what the life of the tailgear on thos cubs/champs is? They look like the sure get bounced around a whole lot, do they sell kits to reinforce them against cracking/breaking?

JM

From the looks of it, the tailwheel it kept off the ground for the most part- the takeoff roll is started with the tail in the air, and the landing roll stops the same way. They also have a bush-mod'ed tailwheel out there... I'd imagine it's beefed up in the right places.

Jimmy Mack · Post by **Jimmy Mack** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:18 pm

It wasn't the landing or taking off i was thinking about, rather the taxiing... that tail is hopping up and down constantly.

JM

ragbagflyer · Post by **ragbagflyer** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:15 pm

That's a clip from the movie "Big Rocks and Long Props, vol 1". I'd highly recomend it. I'm suprised it isn't talked about more on here. Volume two was just released and it's as good, if not better. In volume two the guy talks more about the mechanics of the flying. The tailwheel is a baby bushwheel from ak bushwheels. They are a sturdy assembly and about twice as wide as standard tailwheel. The tail bounces like that because of the leaf spring (no shock absorbtion) and the fact that there is fu*k all in the tail. You could easily lift it with one hand. The camo plane is an expertimental maule. An m5 with an m7 wing, but he says it tops out at around 90 mph or knots, cant remember which. Thats slow for a maule though, the m7 I fly can cruise at 150 + mph. But he's got a fixed pitch prop that is seriously FINE pitched, and only 180 hp. The whole plane is stripped way down wherver it can. It's got extended beefed up gear though. Buy these movies. You won't be disapointed.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:40 pm

It may interest everyone to know that these big wheels were first introduced into Arctic flying by Russ Bradley many years ago.

I flew one of Bradleys conversions of the Super Cub in the Arctic in 1969 and it was old stuff then.

It was amazing the places we landed on a regular basis, also the wheels were so big that trying to wheel land was tricky because the force to get them started to could nose you over if you were not careful.

To bad more pilots are not exposed to real bush / Arctic flying.

Idriveplane · Post by **Idriveplane** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:45 am

Does anyone operate commercially on tundra tires in Canada? Or is that just an Alaska thing?

bigsky · Post by **bigsky** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:01 am

Cat Driver wrote:It may interest everyone to know that these big wheels were first introduced into Arctic flying by Russ Bradley many years ago.

I flew one of Bradleys conversions of the Super Cub in the Arctic in 1969 and it was old stuff then.

It was amazing the places we landed on a regular basis, also the wheels were so big that trying to wheel land was tricky because the force to get them started to could nose you over if you were not careful.

To bad more pilots are not exposed to real bush / Arctic flying.

Welland Wilfred Phipps
Nickname: "Weldy" Phipps
Birthdate: July 23, 1922
Birth Place: Ottawa, Ontario
Year Inducted: 1973
Death Date: October 29, 1996
Awards: CM

"The application of his aeronautical abilities in designing and perfecting the use of super-balloon aircraft tires and his numerous flights into the high Arctic, have been of outstanding benefit to Canadian aviation."

Welland Phipps flew for the RCAF during WWII and was shot down over Germany in 1943. He is best known for his development of the Tundra Tire which was a light weight, supersized balloon tire. This allowed his small aircraft to operate from tundra, snow, and rock-strewn ground. He joined Bradley Air Services in 1957 where he expanded his use of the big tires in the far Arctic and added to his knowledge of cold weather aircraft operations. He made several extended flights to the North Pole for scientific purposes and in support of expeditions.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:29 am

Yes, Weldy flew for Bradley.

Last time I saw Weldy we were under his house in Resolute with a blow torch and a bottle of rum trying to thaw frozen water lines....must have been around 1971 or so.

SuperchargedRS · Post by **SuperchargedRS** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:43 pm

...you need a rock crawler rating for that on your ticket lol

that water landing was cool

cessnafloatflyer · Post by **cessnafloatflyer** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:21 pm

Love the new avatar Cat.
Was Max Ward up there with you?

boozy · Post by **boozy** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:33 pm

That was awesome to watch. I'd like to get that video. Can you get it online. Man "thats real flying" alright.

ragbagflyer · Post by **ragbagflyer** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:33 pm

You can get bigrocks and long props vol 1 and 2 online. Aircraftspruce and skygeek sell em. Or go to the source at cubdriver749er.com. After that all you have to do is buy an appropriate rig and go try it yourself. It's no big deal as long as you are rich. By the way, is there any wealthy older dudes that want to sponsor me? I'd try this stuff out but my plane doesn't have flaps or bushwheels. Any takers? I'm more then willing to have people live vicariously through me.

Real Bush Flying

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