206 Info

Mach .28 · Post by **Mach .28** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 12:09 pm

Looking to see what operators use as a MINIMUM strip length for a 206.

Also what is the shortest strip you have been into before with a 206?

Thx for the info.

. . · Post by **. .** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 6:08 pm

It would all depend on how much clear way you have and what type of load you're pulling out. If you were going out empty it could be very short.

ahramin · Post by **ahramin** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 6:28 pm

Not to mention density altitude.

Jumpus Pilotus · Post by **Jumpus Pilotus** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 8:12 pm

I am flying a C-206 jump plane on a 2200' runway. The runway is a mix of asphalt and gravel and was built in 1942. At my knowledge, it has never been maintained in any way.

With six jumpers on board (plus equipment) and fuel for 1.5 hours, I can tell you that on warm days I use almost all of the available runway. Not rare to see corn on the main gear after a flight.

I usually use around 700' to land.

North Shore · Post by **North Shore** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 10:03 am

Does it really matter? Haul out the books and see what they say. If you don't feel safe, then don't do it.

. . · Post by **. .** » Fri Jun 25, 2004 6:36 pm

one pilot + 6 pax in a 206? I thought you were limited to 5pax and with the newer models only 4pax?

Jumpus Pilotus · Post by **Jumpus Pilotus** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 2:13 pm

endless wrote:one pilot + 6 pax in a 206? I thought you were limited to 5pax and with the newer models only 4pax?

When the 206 is used for skydiving, a weight reduction is performed on the plane. Everything useless is removed and the jumpers sit on the floor. The only seat remaining is the pilot seat. Most of them will also have a sliding cargo door installed.

Wing extentions increase the MTOW so it makes it perfectly legal and safe.

I'd Rather Be Flying · Sat Jul 03, 2004 11:07 am

We occassionally fly to and from 2000' one-way grass strips in the mountains, but generally, with the loads we carry, 3000' and paved or gravel is the preference.

It's all dependent on the winds, density altitude, temperatures, take-off weight, and what the mission is.

Words of advice: use the P.O.H. It could mean the difference between getting airborne or hitting the trees on departure.

Ralliart · Post by **Ralliart** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:13 pm

I fly a 206 straight wheels off 2400 feet paved, near sea level.....no problem with a full load, just long slow climb....similar to a loaded 172. It usually gets airborne at about half way down the runway with light winds, fully loaded. When I take off empty, it gets up within a few seconds and probably not much more than a few hundred feet ground roll.

corn-shoot · Post by **corn-shoot** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 6:20 pm

I can get a bell 206 down in under 600 feet if I have a good headwind

... · Post by **...** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:59 pm

With a 20 kt headwind I constantly landed the C206 within 200' with airspeed at bottom of the white arc.

Corn shoot can attest to that.

. . · Post by **. .** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 7:53 pm

what kind of loads are you carrying with the airspeed at the bottom of the white arc?

snoopy · Post by **snoopy** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:03 am

With regards to number of passengers carried in a C-206, the insurance company and number of pax insured will be the final deciding factor. And I might add that it is not unheard of for a pilot to knowingly/unknowingly be flying an airplane with the correct number of passengers according to the manufacturer but not in accordance with the insurance policy. Something to check for.
The 206 on wheels is a great short/rough strip performer, but like any airplane will bite you when heavy, high and hot.
Cheers,
Snoopy

corn-shoot · Post by **corn-shoot** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 2:16 pm

I am Birddog wrote:With a 20 kt headwind I constantly landed the C206 within 200' with airspeed at bottom of the white arc.

Corn shoot can attest to that.

He's full of shit when he says "landed". My buddies at Transport classify his 200ft landings as "CFIT"

. . · Post by **. .** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:57 pm

no, the 206 can easily be landed in 200' with 20kts on the head. I'm just wonding what kinda speed he's talking with a full load.

... · Post by **...** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:23 pm

corn-shoot wrote:
I am Birddog wrote:With a 20 kt headwind I constantly landed the C206 within 200' with airspeed at bottom of the white arc.

Corn shoot can attest to that.
He's full of shit when he says "landed". My buddies at Transport classify his 200ft landings as "CFIT"

You were always jealous of that neat little trick. Oh and yeah...they're your buddies alright.

Mr. Endless, full load of passengers and I can't remember the fuel but we'll say close to full tanks. It was a high approach and started to pull the power back far enough to avoid any shock cooling. Almost an engine out glide onto the surface of the runway. Staying ahead of the power curve the whole time 1000 RPM till 50' above touch down then to idle all the way down after that. The secret is the high approach. And yes it worked better with full load. As far as speed goes...I went from 10 kts above bottom white arc then right at white arc @ 50' above touch down and then slightly below white arc on the flare. Dont ask me the exact speeds because everything is colour coded...right?! full flap 1/2 mile out.

corn-shoot · Post by **corn-shoot** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:36 am

Is that why your pax always arrived lighter than when they left. You know those full little white baggies aren't tips.

Well maybe they are "tips".

Swamp Donkey · Post by **Swamp Donkey** » Sun Aug 08, 2004 2:00 pm

Hell, I'd even forgot the 206 had an airspeed indicator! I've been landing by the sound of the wind and feel of the controls...