*cockpit video* US friendly fire on UK troops

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*cockpit video* US friendly fire on UK troops

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We always talk about making good decisions. Here are some pilots who made some poor ones even though their intuitions were telling them otherwise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV_16PdWnBo

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Lance Corporal Matty Hull


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Inquest told of 'rogue' US attack on British convoy


Matthew Taylor
Wednesday January 31, 2007
The Guardian

A group of British soldiers yesterday described their frantic attempts to stop an attack on their convoy by "rogue" US warplanes that left one dead and four injured.

Oxfordshire coroner's court heard that two US A10 planes opened fire on a patrol in southern Iraq in March 2003, killing Lance Corporal of Horse Mattie Hull three days before his 26th birthday.

Yesterday his colleagues told the court that the "friendly fire" incident had happened on a clear day as they patrolled an area about 30 miles north-west of Basra.

Staff Corporal Ashley Bell said there had been a flash as the first attack started. He had immediately radioed forward air control with the "Stop, stop, stop" instruction but had been told the planes were being flown by "rogue US pilots".

"[The controller] could not contact the US pilots because they had switched frequencies and were talking to each other."

Soldiers in the five-vehicle convoy released smoke canisters to identify them to friendly pilots. The smoke was visible as one of the planes returned at low level and attacked a second time.

L/Cpl Steven Gerrard said: "Something exploded, there was just a massive flash ... I just shouted to everyone to get out."

L/Cpl Chris Finney, 19, who was awarded the George Cross, went back to the burning wreckage twice in an attempt to rescue his colleagues. He said: "At first there were sparks everywhere and the vehicles stopped, they obviously had been stopped by something. I couldn't actually see what had hit us or where from." He realised there were still people inside as he took cover. He said: "I looked back at my vehicle to see my gunner trying to get out."

The Oxfordshire assistant deputy coroner, Andrew Walker, said the gunner was suffering from a large leg wound. L/Cpl Finney, then a trooper with just one year's experience, pulled him out of the burning vehicle and gave him medical treatment.

As he did so, he was aware that a type of smoke used by coalition forces to indicate a friendly fire incident had been released. "I was still with my gunner on the floor at this point, and the plane came back into view to start its second run."

The inquest heard that although he had been injured he went back to L/Cpl Hull's tank to try to save whoever was inside, but flames forced him back.

Despite requests by the coroner and the British government, the pilots of the US planes that shot Corporal Hull have never been publicly named and will not attend the inquest.

The inquest continues.


http://www.guardian.co.uk
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Post by Mr. North »

It horrifies me to see how easy it was for those pilots to engage the target, ending someones life (there could have EASILY been more casualties). It must have been a nightmare for those poor guys on the ground.
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Post by Golden Flyer »

The pilots clearly asked if there were any friendlies in the area. Manila Hotel advised them that the area was clear. Popov questionned a few and Manila reassured him and his wingman. How could it be their fault? If anything, the bad judgement would be that they were flying VFR and did not notice that the friendlies were actually trying to get their attention.
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Post by Donald »

Anyone see the "Mayday" show on discovery channel about the US warship that shot down an Iranian (?) airliner in the middle east? If the same US officials do the investigation, then all involved will get medals for sure. :roll:
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Post by ScudRunner »

You know what those Orange things were? The Coalition flouresent orange panels to identify friendly Vehicles to prevent such an attack.

I think the US army should paint all there Vehicles like this
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Post by TG »

Not even a week old and this "video" is already on YouTube...

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Post by mellow_pilot »

I thought it happened a loooonng time ago and they're jsut doing the inquiry now...
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Post by megaton montage »

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It did happen in 2003, only now are they showing the video of the event i guess.

As most of you know, the A-10s are close air support aircraft and are more familiar with working up close to friendlies than most other units. They fly low and slow. They were not under any threat themselves at the time and had no reason to rush in to get the kill. When they have that much firepower and ability, there should not have been a shot fired until they were positive about their target.
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Post by TG »

Fuel level and brains locked (like me 3 posts above) might be reasons for their rush.
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Oh My........

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God speed soldier. One can never know a family's loss to friendly fire..... :(
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Post by laticsdave »

Fucking yanks.
They should sort out the crap that exists in their own country before they go and look for an excuse to invade a foreign country in their attempts at world domination.
I hope that someone gives Bush's Bastards some "friendly fire " back.
The US military are just a bunch of cunts.... and anyone who supports them can consider themselves a cunt too.
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