registration

[shower of sparks]

i find it annoying when pilots use the "C-" in their registration when calling up ATC. what is up with this? it seems private pilots do this a lot.

sos

[Kilo-Kilo]

Must just be in your area. One person must have started a trend.

[shower of sparks]

i hear it almost every day around T.O. and it's not always the same a/c.

[Johnny]

i find it annoying when pilots use the "C-" in their registration when calling up ATC. what is up with this? it seems private pilots do this a lot.

Just so I'm clear, are they reading C-GABC as, "Charlie Golf Alpha..." or are you saying they're reading the hyphen as well, as in "Charlie hyphen Golf Alpha..." or something ridiculous like that?

If they are doing the former, there is no violation of procedure. It is encouraged to use your full call sign for initial contact with ATC and then continue with whatever ATC answers with.

[ahramin]

There is a guy around here who says "charlie dash golf ..."

Makes you wonder.

[Highflyinpilot]

here we go on the radio issue again





WHO CARES if someone says Charlie golf alpha bravo charlie

[Dust Devil]

There is a guy around here who says "charlie dash golf ..."

That's awsome. If I heard someone say that I'd buy them a beer.

[shower of sparks]

i havent heard the "dash" but i hear a lot of guys sayin': "charlie golf alpha bravo charlie". i don't think you need to say the charlie part.

sos

[Snowgoose]

I heard someone refer to themselves as a Super King Air 200 before. Almost had to ask for a hold cuz I was laughing so hard.

[Hedley]

It is encouraged to use your full call sign for initial contact with ATC

No, it is not.

I suppose if you were really, really bored, you could do what the AIM says to do:

http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/publi ... -0.htm#5-8

Canadian Private Civil Registration and Canadian or Foreign Carriers Without an Assigned Call Sign

(a) Initial contact: The manufacturer’s name or the type of aircraft, followed by the last four letters of the registration.

Examples:

Cessna GADT (CESSNA GOLF ALFA DELTA TANGO)
Aztec-FADT (AZTEC FOXTROT ALFA DELTA TANGO)

NOTE: The words helicopter, glider or ultralight are an acceptable substitute to the type of aircraft.

(b) Subsequent communications may be abbreviated to the last three letters of the registration, if this abbreviation is initiated by ATS.

Examples:

Cessna GADT becomes “ADT” (ALFA DELTA TANGO) Aztec-FADT becomes “ADT” (ALFA DELTA TANGO)

Foreign Private Civil Registration:

(a) Initial contact: The manufacturer’s name or the type of aircraft, followed by the full aircraft registration.

Example:

Mooney-N6920K (expressed: MOONEY NOVEMBER SIX NINE TWO ZERO KILO).

(b) Subsequent communications may be abbreviated to the last three characters of the registration if initiated by ATS.

Example:

Mooney-N6920K becomes 20K

(expressed: TWO ZERO KILO).

[Cleared Enroute]

I've been guilty of this. My company uses our reg. instead of our callsign. So when flying down in the States you get into the habit of including the "C" as part of the registration. I'll catch myself including the "C" sometimes after comming back onto a Canadian Freq. That's life... no big deal.

[wallypilot]

I've been guilty of this. My company uses our reg. instead of our callsign. So when flying down in the States you get into the habit of including the "C" as part of the registration. I'll catch myself including the "C" sometimes after comming back onto a Canadian Freq. That's life... no big deal.

exactly. for those of us that spend large amounts of time overseas in a c reg'd aircraft, it becomes force of habit. omitting the "Charlie" would actually eat up more air time with the uncertain pause at the beginning.

There's a lot more terrible radio habits that cause much more misunderstanding and inconvenience than this trivial matter.

[jjal]

There's a lot more terrible radio habits that cause much more misunderstanding and inconvenience than this trivial matter.

Thank you wallypilot.

Your aircraft call sign starts with a C so say it on initial contact along with a G, F, or I and omit it (or them) in subsequent transmissions. Find something better to nitpick!