G-V testflight really leaves a mark...

skyismine · Post by **skyismine** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:41 pm

Gulfstream did a test flight with a G-V and the flight plan was rather interesting...

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/G... ... /KATW/KATW

skyismine · Post by **skyismine** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:45 pm

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/ge ... n/3244359/

First link didnt work but this one might...

desksgo · Post by **desksgo** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:29 am

That sure would be easy to do with Microsoft Paint. Not even photoshop on this one.

CAL · Post by **CAL** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:41 am

I hope its real....

Snowgoose · Post by **Snowgoose** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:47 am

You'd figure if they spent all the fuel and airframe time to do it, they might advertise a little better.

The Other Kind · Post by **The Other Kind** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:06 am

I initially called Bullshit on this, but it's on Flight Aware. GLF17 departed ATW Feb 6 at 938 CST and lasted 8hrs 27min. The route is there if anyone has the time to waste plugging it into Flight Star.

Apollo · Post by **Apollo** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:41 am

tis real - here's the flightaware link:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/GLF1 ... /KATW/KATW

fougapilot · Post by **fougapilot** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:50 am

Snowgoose wrote:You'd figure if they spent all the fuel and airframe time to do it, they might advertise a little better.

Perhaps it was not Gulfstream. When ever an airplane is delivered to a client after completion (airplane are generaly sold without an interior. The custumer purchases the seats, couch, beds, toilet from a different provider) there is a need to do a cold soak flight. This flight is there to have the plane reach its normal operating temperature so the system (water plumbing, toilet, pressurization...)can be tested. Should a water line freeze and burst in flight, it could have consequences on the airplane safety. Thus we do a trial run before taking delivery o the airplane.

For our Global, we did Montreal, James Bay, Ottawa, Regina back to Montreal. This was done in one leg (no landing any where but home) and a slew of mechanics went through the complete airplane to see it it behave in accordance with specs. Total flight time 9hrs.

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Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:37 am

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I think you missed the point, it wasnt that they did a test flight, or the reasons behind it...

Its clearly obvious....the green track is "G-V"

Or is that all sarcasm? I can never tell with some posts on this forum...ugh.

Pratt X 3 · Post by **Pratt X 3** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:27 am

Route verified.

Using http://www.fltplan.com and entering the waypoints from the Flightaware page, you get this (click on enormous link):

http://www.maps.fltplan.com/mapgenerato ... standalone

twinpratts · Post by **twinpratts** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:22 am

They just got lost...nothing more

frontside_air · Post by **frontside_air** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:36 am

fougapilot wrote:For our Global, we did Montreal, James Bay, Ottawa, Regina back to Montreal. This was done in one leg (no landing any where but home) and a slew of mechanics went through the complete airplane to see it it behave in accordance with specs. Total flight time 9hrs.
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same idea here, it was a cold soak flight test

Mitch Cronin · Post by **Mitch Cronin** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:06 am

frontside_air wrote:
fougapilot wrote:For our Global, we did Montreal, James Bay, Ottawa, Regina back to Montreal. This was done in one leg (no landing any where but home) and a slew of mechanics went through the complete airplane to see it it behave in accordance with specs. Total flight time 9hrs.
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same idea here, it was a cold soak flight test

If so, that GV flight seems like a pretty lame version....? Why not fly someplace where it really is cold, let it get good and cold soaked, then fly away and see what difficulties arise... y'know, sorta like real life?

frontside_air · Post by **frontside_air** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:57 am

Mitch Cronin wrote:Why not fly someplace where it really is cold, let it get good and cold soaked, then fly away and see what difficulties arise... y'know, sorta like real life?

good question.... probably didn't want to pay the dastardly navcanada user fees! no clue to tell you the truth, this was the info relayed to me down here at fsi by another crew who "knows one of the guys in the test department". i guess they figure fl400 over wiscahnson in the middle of winter is cold enough.

honestly though, what GV owner is likely to want to take a ride to iqaluit? frozen lav lines is the equator's way of saying, "hey...i really miss you and need you closer right now"

fougapilot · Post by **fougapilot** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:41 am

Mitch Cronin wrote: Why not fly someplace where it really is cold, let it get good and cold soaked, then fly away and see what difficulties arise... y'know, sorta like real life?

Simple, having an airplane cold soak overnight on the ground in Resolute Bay is far from having an airplane cold soak where it will live, in high altitude. There is currently no other means to do this test.

Plus, it is actually colder at altitude in warm climated then in colder. In northern regions (like ours) during winter the tropopause is much lower then during summer. Considering that the temp remains constant above the tropopause, having a higher trop allows more time for the air to cool. Flying in AOT colder then -60c happens more frequently in warmer climates then in colder ones.

Still looks to me like american propaganda...

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