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Adiabatic
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Great work RuudLeeuw on your website, I remember you, I think I still have your card..

Ahh can't wait for the summer wages again.

GPSH will rise again!! Justl like the two C46's

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It is no ice strip I think; it is one of these raised dirtstrips, high over the tundra, I think
I tried to find carat lake on Google maps and Google earth but all I got were links to diamond mine companies... linking to their offices in Toronto!
carat Lake is in Nunavut territory
Have added some stuff on the mine there on my page
http://www.ruudleeuw.com/yellowknife06.htm
Am sure Buffalo Joe will retrieve the aircraft, either for spares use or for rebuild at some point in time. I think he will scratch his ear more about what this incident will do to his reputation as a company...


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I doubt it is ice. I landed in Carat many years ago on dirt or gravel. The memory is vague(show N66° and W111°28 in my logbook). I've been to a few ice strips but never seen an ice strip with a dropoff like that.


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Or dig a hole and bury it like some of his other Arctic decorations. :shock:


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The Runway at Carat is located at N6601 W11127. The strip was 3100' long, but was lengthened to around 4000' before this incident occurred. The winter ice road will connect the mine with Yellowknife some time in January. The mine will receive its yearly supply of fuel and other operating materials through this road for approximately six weeks.


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Fact is they lengthened it to appx 4100ft., and it is gravel, i've personally been there
Not to prod, but I wish people could spell correctly


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What's wrong with the spelling?


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Hope you don't mind if I use some of yr lines on my webpage, describing Carat Lake, etc
http://www.ruudleeuw.com/yellowknife06.htm


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I think Carat is separate from the Jericho mine. Carat: a unit of weight in gemstones, 200 milligrams (about 3 grains of troy or avoirdupois weight). I wonder if they are looking for diamonds up there?


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Ya the strip that PSH went off of is a gravel strip that was lengthened to 4100'. its NOT an ice strip. Its where all the freight for the Jericho diamond mine is flown to. This mine is in production and is operated by the Tahera Diamond Corp. Based in the Soctia tower on bay st in downtown YYZ i belive.

So NO, joe's DC4 will not sink in 3 months. Dream on.

Im watining for Taheras stock to rise... but will it? who knows.

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Occurrence No. : A06W0250
Occurrence Type: ACCIDENT
Class : CLASS 5
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Date : 29-12-2006 Time : 12:15 MST
Region of Responsibility : WESTERN
Location : CYWO LUPIN, 26NM N, NUNAVUT

Registration : C-GPSH
Operator : BUFFALO AIRWAYS LTD.
Manufacturer : MCDONNELL DOUGLAS
Operator Type: COMMERCIAL
Model : C-54
CARs Info: 705 - AIRLINER

Injuries: Fatal : 0 Serious : 0 Minor : 2 None : 0 Unknown : 0



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A06W0250: A Buffalo Airways C-54 aircraft, registration C-GPSH, over-ran the runway during the landing roll at Carat Lake, NU. The nose wheel collapsed and the aircraft's nose dropped over an embankment off the end of the runway. The aircraft was carrying 9000 litres of Arctic Diesel to the mine. The fuel cells, which where bolted to the aircraft's floor, broke loose and resulted in an unknown quantity of fuel spilling. An environmental clean up response had been initiated.
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That's a lot of written off aircraft in just a few years. Kinda scary, but no no, buffalo is awesome and the rest of us are a bunch of pussies because we can't hack it out on the ramp there....LOL. What a joke.


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By my estimate they have an incident about every 6 months. Allot of them are covered up quickly and never get reported. For example they had two runway “excursions” at the Diavik mine site but TC only knows about one.

As far as putting this plane back in the air. Anyone that says it can’t be done doesn’t know Joe to well. This guy has become famous . . .infamous for resurrecting written off aircraft. If I was a betting man I would definitely put money down that this plane will fly again and given good enough odds I’d even lay some down that Joe would fly it from its current site.


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I wonder if he'll throw a Canso nose on it.

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Don't forget Ulu poor BSK


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That's a lot of written off aircraft in just a few years. Kinda scary, but no no, buffalo is awesome and the rest of us are a bunch of pussies because we can't hack it out on the ramp there....LOL. What a joke.


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Those are some wild pictures. I would not count the Buffalo guys out on this one. PSH has a long history as being the old reliable so I can't see Buffalo just writing her off. They have an amazing knack for making something from nothing, my dollar says she'll fly again!

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A safe bet, I'd say...


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RuudLeeuw:

How are things in the land of windmills and canals?

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Force 9 we had and considerable delays at the airport
The good thing is I was had home, have to work in the weekend when thing spromise to be more quiet
No doubt we'll have our share of tec delays
No winter here and while I don't envy the winters in Canada, it might be nice to have a bit of frost and snow once in a while...
Propliners here (Holland) are hybernating as most are operated by preservation groups; am looking forward to the spring (but maybe we ar ekneedeep in snow then, the climate is really out of whack...)
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Anymore news on getting PSH back up?


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Hey grimey,

I was just up in yellowknife and was talking to the gang at buffalo the other day. As soon as the weather gets better, she will be repaired and brought home. That old girl has a long story behind her and they are not about to let it die there. That DC-4 was in on the berlin airlift all those years ago. She'll be flying by summer my dollar says anyways. Gotta love that old iron those guys got, back when planes were planes and pilots actually flew them, instead of pushin buttons.

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..... back when planes were planes and pilots actually flew them, instead of pushin buttons.


With no "summon the FA for java" button, a plane's not worth flying.

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