Hey everyone, I posted this in the training forum, but there haven't been any bites
I have a question about recurrent training that I hope someone can shed some light on, and possibly provide a reference to cars if they know it
I work for a small company with two pilots flying a couple of twin Cessnas. If one pilot needs recurrent training, does the other pilot need a PPC on that particular aircraft to go up with him and sign off on the training?
Any refs to the cars would be cool.
Thanks!
Recurrent PPC Training question
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The Other Kind
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I'm not going to search the CARs for you, but I have been through this with Transport in the past. Your training pilot must have a valid PPC on the aircraft type in order for TC to recognize the training. Only in rare circumstances will they bend their rules on this. If, for example, you can't find a qualified training captain, they may accept a pilot with time on type but who no longer holds a valid PPC. Your POI should be able to help shed some light on this.
Not sure the type of flying you are doing, but we were 703 single pilot IFR.
Hope this helps.
Not sure the type of flying you are doing, but we were 703 single pilot IFR.
Hope this helps.
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Right of CARs 723.98 part 3.
http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/Regse ... tm#723a_98
3) Training and Qualifications of Training Personnel
(a) Instructor - Ground Training
(i) has satisfied the air operator that he/she has the knowledge and skills required to conduct the training; and
(ii) if conducting aeroplane type training has successfully completed the ground school for the type of aeroplane.
(b) Qualifications and Responsibilities of a Training Pilot (Flight)
(i) Qualifications
(A) If the Air Operator Certificate authorizes operations IFR:
(I) hold a valid Airline Transport Pilot Licence and a valid Instrument Rating appropriate for the class of aeroplane, and have a valid PPC on type; or
(amended 2003/06/01; previous version)
(II) hold a valid Commercial Pilot Licence valid for night and a valid Instrument Rating appropriate for the class of aeroplane, have accumulated not less than 500 flight hours which shall include not less than 250 flight hours as pilot-in-command appropriate for the class of aeroplanes and have a valid PPC on type.
(amended 2003/06/01; previous version)
Hopes this helps,
F
http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/Regse ... tm#723a_98
3) Training and Qualifications of Training Personnel
(a) Instructor - Ground Training
(i) has satisfied the air operator that he/she has the knowledge and skills required to conduct the training; and
(ii) if conducting aeroplane type training has successfully completed the ground school for the type of aeroplane.
(b) Qualifications and Responsibilities of a Training Pilot (Flight)
(i) Qualifications
(A) If the Air Operator Certificate authorizes operations IFR:
(I) hold a valid Airline Transport Pilot Licence and a valid Instrument Rating appropriate for the class of aeroplane, and have a valid PPC on type; or
(amended 2003/06/01; previous version)
(II) hold a valid Commercial Pilot Licence valid for night and a valid Instrument Rating appropriate for the class of aeroplane, have accumulated not less than 500 flight hours which shall include not less than 250 flight hours as pilot-in-command appropriate for the class of aeroplanes and have a valid PPC on type.
(amended 2003/06/01; previous version)
Hopes this helps,
F
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there are 2 more things /
the ops manual must include that the training
requirements for right seat . basicially that the person giving the training has received training to act as pic from the right seat.
2 he/she own training file has to reflect this.
some poi's may waive this with an established operater with a good
track record but not a start up.
the ops manual must include that the training requirements for right seat . basicially that the person giving the training has received training to act as pic from the right seat.
2 he/she own training file has to reflect this.
some poi's may waive this with an established operater with a good
track record but not a start up.
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Yeh, that is really a difficult task, everyone knows how difficult it is to remember how to fly when you change seats." basicially that the person giving the training has received training to act as pic from the right seat. "
I'm happy to see you guys are not allowed to hurt yourselves by changing seats without the proper paperwork.
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Aileron: You might want to re-read your cut and paste quote. Both part A and part B include the words "and a PPC on type". I do not think this is open to creative interprtation. In both cases the training pilot MUST have a current and valid PPC on type to give the required training.
