Greyhound Air

ARCTICOCEAN · Post by **ARCTICOCEAN** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:52 pm

Sure - flown by KFC with a dog on the tail. Always wondered how they would have done if not for the Laidlaw buyout. As far as I know the only big airplane hub and spoke system in Canada - everything went through YWG.

CD · Post by CD » Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:54 pm

Great little airline...

gonfly'n · Post by **gonfly'n** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:28 pm

I flew on them when i was about 8 years old. The flight was from hamilton to vancouver Intl. I remember really severe pain on the descent and the flight attendant saying, "oh thats normal" How comforting.

asdfasd · Post by **asdfasd** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:38 pm

Yeah,, I flew that.

We're the airline that has been there, done that, but cant seem to keep it going.

Kelowna Pilot · Post by **Kelowna Pilot** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:02 pm

I remember it too... I also remember some scandal it had regarding their advertising... a dog peeing on Air Canada or something... I forget.

At any rate, Greyhound ended up as just another chapter in the weird and wacky world of aviation startups in Canada.

How many aviation start-ups did Canada have over the last 10 years?

A lot.

I think the only one that lasted was Westjet.

I felt sorry for the pilots at these companies... they must have felt like restaurant workers who work at one restaurant for a month, then go onto another restaurant, and so on... Very hard on their families.

asdfasd · Post by **asdfasd** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:10 pm

yeah, and then you get asked to take pay cuts and told you might be out of a job in two years.

YYCcrew · Post by **YYCcrew** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:17 pm

thats a very good point lots of start-ups that didn't make it,,, very sad. I heard that the industry has a 93% failure rate. Some that I remeber,,,

Canjet 1
Canada 3000 (not a start up in the last 10 years but we lost them)
Royal (see above)
Vista Jet
Greyhound Air
Jetsgo
Canjet 2 (sorta gone)
Vacances Meastro (wet lease with skyservice)
Skyward
Zip (folded into Air Canada Mainline)

Have I missed any? I dont count Canadian because they "merged" with AC.

CD · Post by CD » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:23 pm

Inter-Canadien
Air Atlantic
QuikAir
Quebecair Express
Winnport
International Express Air Charter Ltd (aka Regency Express, aka SonicBlue)

ehbuddy · Post by **ehbuddy** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:38 pm

Atlantic Island Airways
Ports of Call
Minerve Canada
Holidair
Odessy
Triton
Astoria

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:39 pm

I used to commute to Toronto out of Vancouver on Greyhound, great little airline and the 72 would pass all the other stuff the airlines operated.

Human Factor · Post by **Human Factor** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:20 pm

Don't forget Roots Air!

60N30W · Post by **60N30W** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:31 am

Jetall
ACE, All Canada Express
Air Montreal

There was also a G1 operator out of YYZ, can't remember the name, ran cargo.

There was also a DC8 operation that started in YYC with a goal of supporting the oil industry in Russia, they did not last long, can't remember their name either. This one was in addition to Points of Call and Holidair.

Regards,

60N30W

flyinthebug · Post by **flyinthebug** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:53 am

You can add Northern Dene and Norcanair to the list.

linecrew · Post by **linecrew** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:38 am

That actually used to be a Greyhound 27.

Pratt X 3 · Post by **Pratt X 3** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:46 am

60N30W wrote:There was also a G1 operator out of YYZ, can't remember the name, ran cargo.

Airwave

Big Pratt · Post by **Big Pratt** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:15 am

Sporthawk Int'l

Double Wasp · Post by **Double Wasp** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:22 am

Don't Forget ICC air cargo,
Commando Air Transport
Ministic
Wild Country
Skyward

200hr Wonder · Post by **200hr Wonder** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:42 am

From the YVR area:

NavAir
Northern Hawk

And a few more that I seem to be forgetting...

Snowgoose · Post by **Snowgoose** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:28 pm

Arctic Wings is another to add to the list.

How many of you remember this little fact? Simo Air in Windsor,ON was originally approached to operate this airline before KFC eventually did it.

The owners of Simo died in a small twin crash around Killarney a couple years later. I think Georgian Simo them after that for the Caravan operation.

ARCTICOCEAN · Post by **ARCTICOCEAN** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:05 pm

Better question who's left? (705 with jets?)
AC and all that Jazz
WJ
Skyservice
Harmony
Zoom
First Air
Canjet 2.5
Flair
Voyageur (CRJs??)

and cargo?
KFC
Cargojet
Morningstar
First Air
Flair
WestCan Air

I see IMP wants to go cargo now too (CTA website). And now AC Cargo is a seperate entity will they go out and get dedicated freighters?

(did I miss anybody?)

ScudRunner · Post by **ScudRunner** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:50 pm

CWA out of YVR they were boom and bust in a hurry.

North Vancouver Air
Sonic Blue
Regency

20DMEYYZ · Post by **20DMEYYZ** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 4:30 pm

Cat Driver said : "72 would pass all the other stuff the airlines operated"

even the 742's ????????

i know the 27's were rockets & especially on the slide , but i thought the jumbo's owned the .mach @ FL's ?

any1 .....

Rudderless · Post by **Rudderless** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 4:49 pm

How about more than 10 years ago?

Wardair
Nordair
Nationair
Starline Aviation
CAIL
CP
City Express
Air Atonabee
Air Ontario
Corporate Air
Central Airways
Skycraft

Anyone work for any of those?

Highflyinpilot · Post by **Highflyinpilot** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 4:55 pm

My dad is a driver for greyhound, and he said that the moment they started up bussiness in the airline world it started having negative effects right from the get go

Mark_space · Post by **Mark_space** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 4:58 pm

Nationair

www2.gol.com/users/daleh/nationair/

A charter carrier, used by the Canadian Forces to fill the gap between the departure of our 707's, and the arrival of the Airbus. Flew with them into Lahr a number of times in the early '90's. Memories of Service Dress-clad squaddies, crammed like sardines into one of their DC-8's, with unbelievably BAD inflight grub, even by Army standards...

Sorry, just had to get that off my chest!

Greyhound Air

White Knuckle Airlines