Pilatus

codfish · Post by **codfish** » Sat Aug 28, 2004 11:58 am

hello people

just wondering where one can get/buy a pilatus PC-12 ppc in canada.......... and i'm not getting one so i can obtain a job in canada for those in the peanut gallery.

Cheers

coffee cup · Post by **coffee cup** » Sat Aug 28, 2004 12:38 pm

Why ya wondering then?

Wild Cat · Post by **Wild Cat** » Sat Aug 28, 2004 1:59 pm

oldtimer · Post by **oldtimer** » Sat Aug 28, 2004 2:09 pm

To be of any use, you need Sim training and they are all in the USA. All Captains in Canadian commercial operations need initial Sim training.

Snowgoose · Post by **Snowgoose** » Sat Aug 28, 2004 4:35 pm

After the sim training, any of the pilatus operators in canada would probably help you out for the right amount of $$. Or try Kelner Pilatus Center in Thunder Bay to see if they can help you.

Last time I heard, a sim course for the PC-12 was 9K

tripod · Post by **tripod** » Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:49 pm

codfish wrote:hello people

just wondering where one can get/buy a pilatus PC-12 ppc in canada.......... and i'm not getting one so i can obtain a job in canada for those in the peanut gallery.

Cheers

If your not getting a PPC in order obtain a job, why don't you just jerk off all over yourself and save 9K?

w squared · Post by **w squared** » Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:03 pm

He said it wasn't to get a jobin Canada...not that he didn't have a good reason.

heropsychodreamer · Post by **heropsychodreamer** » Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:09 pm

SimCom in Orlando or Scottsdale

codfish · Post by **codfish** » Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:35 pm

w squared:

with an intelligant come back like your's, I guess you are the proof that anal sex can produce children.........grow up.

You are the type who always have your lips moving because you like smelling the bull shit that comes out of the blow hole of your's. It was a simple question I asked, and don't need some little prick's smart assed remarks.....if I ever seen you on the street I would smack that greasy fuc#kin' grin off that face of your's....bring it the Fu$k on!

Codfish

codfish · Post by **codfish** » Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:37 pm

the above is for TRIPOD. w squared... my regards..I looked at the wrong name. you're a good shit.

corn-shoot · Post by **corn-shoot** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 5:42 pm

tripod wrote:
codfish wrote:hello people

Cheers
If your not getting a PPC in order obtain a job, why don't you just jerk off all over yourself and save 9K?

I do that every day and I don't save 9k...I like the post though.

w squared · Post by **w squared** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 6:09 pm

Codfish:

I resent that remark. I am most definitely NOT a good shit. I'm cantankerous, mean-spirited, caustic, and incredibly unlikely to suffer the foolishness of others.

However...I did get a chuckle out of your rant!

And by the way, anal sex can produce offspring...I've met a couple of individuals that are walking, grunting proof of that.

shleb · Post by **shleb** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 8:11 pm

If your not after the job, im with tripod. Go tug yourself silly, and save 9k. As for describing someone as being good shit, and talking about anal sex children all at once, obviously someones mind is in the hole.

Earn yourself a ppc, dont buy one and undercut a hard worker.

tripod · Post by **tripod** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 8:30 pm

Schleb. Be very careful what you say about Codfish. He is a very violent person. He will look for you on the street and wipe the grin off of your face. The damage he plans on doing to my face is inevitable; therefore, I can voice some additional comments with minimal concern. Maybe he actually requires the price information because he is facing a training bond. Anyone who would buy a PPC in order to undercut someone is obviously a load that should have been swallowed.

aileron · Post by **aileron** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:48 pm

If your not getting a PPC in order obtain a job, why don't you just jerk off all over yourself and save 9K?

The chair I was sitting on is now on it's back after making a really large crash-bang, nice score Tripod.

Now here's a wee rhetorical question: What good would a Canadian PPC do for you if you're going overseas anyways... (unless it's C reg)?

confuzed · Post by **confuzed** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 4:45 am

Anyone who would buy a PPC in order to undercut someone is obviously a load that should have been swallowed.

Ever think that maybe he's a business owner outside of aviation that might be planning on buying a Pilatus, and plans on flying it himself which needs that PPC???

If not then what's the deal with people getting pissed off about someone attaining their own training? Does it suck for some people, yah. However, if someone works their ass off in another job or career why is it wrong for them to get a jump ahead if they want to make a career change. Would I be pissed about being bumped out of the way......well, honestly no I mean who am I to bitch if someone earned that money themselves? Even if someone's "daddy" steps in, what the hell is the big deal? So their parents worked their asses' off to get to where they are....that's the whole point, so their family would have a better way of life. Just because someone comes from a good background, don't ostracize them because you're jealous of their opportunities. If said person said they would work for a hell of a lot less then I would have been paid just to get the job, then yes I would be quite upset about not getting that position. Otherwise, quit your whining and go get a job that pays better so you can do what you want to do with your own money

LT · Post by LT » Mon Sep 06, 2004 6:17 am

confuzed wrote: However, if someone works their ass off in another job or career why is it wrong for them to get a jump ahead if they want to make a career change. Would I be pissed about being bumped out of the way......well, honestly no I mean who am I to bitch if someone earned that money themselves?

To bad they just went to HRDC and used your money....

confuzed · Post by **confuzed** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:37 am

To bad they just went to HRDC and used your money....

How do you figure?? What if said individual works part time as a construction worker or driving truck in the bush? This pays really good money and if they've saved up for some time they can afford to do this....how is this wrong?? If they go to HRDC and it gets approved, so be it. They still pay in to it from their paycheque over the years. What's the difference about getting a PPC, or going to get an AZ licence which costs $5000? It's all about marketability, if you can afford it all the power to you. You shouldn't have to face condemnation from your fellow employees because they're bitter and envious of the fact that they couldn't get what you did. Come on now LT...

LT · Post by LT » Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:02 am

confuzed wrote:
If they go to HRDC and it gets approved, so be it. They still pay in to it from their paycheque over the years.

Lol.. They pay it back to the HRDC.? Blah.. I heard from people it's just free money.. =( Ok, nevermind, I take it back(assuming they do pay it back in full).

confuzed · Post by **confuzed** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:12 am

Lol.. They pay it back to the HRDC.? Blah.. I heard from people it's just free money.. =( Ok, nevermind, I take it back(assuming they do pay it back in full).

You misunderstood me...when you go apply for a program that is funded it's through Training Wheels (in ON at least), and it has to be approved. You have to be able to provide a list of jobs that require that training, as well as an operator to state that they would hire you with specific training. Once that gets approved you are eligible to be funded up to 90% of the training, so you still have to pay a minimum of 10%. That does not require to be paid back. What I meant was that over the years, every paycheque you get you have money deducted from it for unemployment insurance so you pay into it. I don't mind my tax dollars going towards training people for whatever they choose to take (even if they get approved to get said PPC). I'd rather it go to them who are trying to better themselves to gain employment, then to people that abuse and fraud the system

Pugster · Post by **Pugster** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:54 am

What about those who are employed but are looking for the next step? Shouldn't the employed masses be able to access that EI money in order to better themselves too?

I'm a bleeding heart liberal, and I DO believe in helping out individuals who need to get back on their feet, but I've been paying into said system for just as long, and I've yet to access any of it. Why can't I upgrade my training using these funds then too (and improve my sometimes dicey financial situation). Or why can't I use some of this cash to get rid of some of those student loans I'll be paying off for the next 10 years????

If we're (the taxpayer) gonna pay for out of work pilots to upgrade their training, maybe we should pay for working pilots as well.

Oh - and for the guy looking for a PPC on the PC12 - if you're truly not doing it to "get" a job, then SIMCOM and Flightsafety would be the best bets I would assume. And if you are doing it to "get" a job, may your balls explode under the force of a thousand ball-peen hammers.

PS: Don't knock the whitewater wristing.

Pugster

confuzed · Post by **confuzed** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:20 am

[quote="Pugster"]What about those who are employed but are looking for the next step? Shouldn't the employed masses be able to access that EI money in order to better themselves too? [quote]

Don't worry pugster, I've never even heard of training for things like a Simcomm or Flightsafety type program even being approved. I have heard of them approving your multi/ifr, instructor or float rating. There's only one instance where I knew someone who was trying to get one of his pilots approved to get a type rating through funding. This was just so the company didn't have to pay the full fare, just the 10%. Whether or not it got approved, I doubt it since that company still isn't even in existance yet. Why should someone who is employed be able to access this money, when it's meant for people who are unemployed. It only even applies if you're on E.I. so they're pretty sticky about who they hand out money too. I've seen guys who fly in the bush in the summer go and get a funded AZ licence so they can drive truck in the winter and not have to collect E.I. I think it's a good idea actually, since you're not sitting around waiting for break up. Granted, the whole time you're on E.I. it's not as though you're not trying to get a break with an IFR outfit but at least driving truck you're making more money then on E.I. Is it what you want to do for a living? No, but you do what you have to do to pay the bills. Even if you're employed full time, but not getting full time hours (that 45 hours/week) HRDC will compensate you for this from what i've heard. It's worth checking out.

Pugster · Post by **Pugster** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:50 am

I have no problem with the HRSDC funding additional training to keep people off of the dole. Hell, just looking at it financially, it's less expensive in the long run. But why not a little preventative maintenance instead of just waiting for the EI line to build?

Pugster · Post by **Pugster** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:51 am

I have no problem with the HRSDC funding additional training to keep people off of the dole. Hell, just looking at it financially, it's less expensive in the long run. But why not a little preventative maintenance instead of just waiting for the EI line to build?

Carl · Post by **Carl** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 1:14 pm

I think that some people are quite envious of others who can AFFORD to better thier careers by purchasing PPC's. What makes you think that you are more deserving because you didnt buy your PPC??? That's the real question here.

Cant wait to here the answers to this one.

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