Election rigging in Canada by Liberals

[Dust Devil]

looks like the Liberals can add election rigging to their corrupt ideology.

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news ... cb&k=44059

[2R]

Haha she never got elected the last time so now she is selling hersoul to Dion to get elected in the next election .
I hope she does not get elected as it would be a shame to lose a nice guy like Peter Mackay in the House as he is a decent and capable man.

[costermonger]

looks like the Liberals can add election rigging to their corrupt ideology.

You call that election rigging? Honestly.. This meets your definition of fixing an election?

[altiplano]

I think any strategy used to displace the conservative agenda would meet DD's definition.

As for Peter Mackay being a decent guy - he's a politician. Don't kid yourself...

[CD]

I hope she does not get elected as it would be a shame to lose a nice guy like Peter Mackay in the House as he is a decent and capable man.

He certainly was... Until he sold his party (and soul) to the Canadian Alliance...

[CID]

I wouldn't hesitate a bit to say that Peter Mackay is a idiot, a liar, a crybaby and bereft of class.

That's my opinion anyway.

[JakeYYZ]

Dion is preventing voters of Central Nova from voting for one of the two national parties that have been running Canada since Confederation. What an arrogant p*ick… So much for being a national party.
In other news:

The Journal de Montreal reported Thurday that some Liberal members have had enough of Dion's leadership and almost wish an election would be held this spring in which the Liberals wouldn't do well and could start rebuilding with a new leader.
The tabloid mentioned former astronaut and Liberal candidate Marc Garneau and Sen. Francis Fox as two Liberals who wish to see Dion's departure.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/0704 ... que_canada

[Guido]

Waaaaaaaaaaaa.... my area doesn't have a Communist candidate... this election is rigged!! WAAAAAA!!!!

[Dust Devil]

looks like the Liberals can add election rigging to their corrupt ideology.

You call that election rigging? Honestly.. This meets your definition of fixing an election?

I think intentionaly taking away the choice of who a person can or cannot vote for inorder to attempt to secure your own seat can be classified as rigging an election.

[JakeYYZ]

Waaaaaaaaaaaa.... my area doesn't have a Communist candidate... this election is rigged!! WAAAAAA!!!!

Oh, dear. There's that noise again. The sound of knuckles being dragged. Big, hairy left-wing knuckles scraping over the past. And the moaning. Oh, the moaning: "Rae!" they cry, grateful for his monosyllabic name " RAE AGAIN! Doesn't anybody but us remember ? The never-ending sops to welfare bums, minorities, the disen....disen...you know -the people without franchises!."

Oh, the horror.

[xsbank]

Well, you have to admit McKay is the only one in Ottawa to get anything good out of Belinda Stronach!

[Cat Driver]

If she was so good why did he quit banging her?

[shitdisturber]

If she was so good why did he quit banging her?

He wasn't, so she dumped him for Tie Domi.

[Cat Driver]

I wonder if Harper got a sample?

[Wasps rule]

I think any strategy used to displace the conservative agenda would meet DD's definition.

As for Peter Mackay being a decent guy - he's a politician. Don't kid yourself...

Good point Altiplano, we must not kid ourselves about any politician.

After all, the Greens have struck a deal with a former environment minister who enjoys one of the worst records in my lifetime. Talk about having no values!

Dion.... Where do I start? I can't stop watching that train wreck. He definitely takes the heat off CN.

As far as this "Conservative Agenda", could you fill me in on what it is exactly?? Is it the election promises that have been kept? I'm below the belled average on knowledge of Canadian Politics so please spell this "Agenda" out for me. Your response may influence my vote next election.

One observation I made in your post; If you quote the left wing biased media's scare tactics, you are placing yourself on par with the parrots.

[costermonger]

I think intentionaly taking away the choice of who a person can or cannot vote for inorder to attempt to secure your own seat can be classified as rigging an election.

So it's possible to legally rig an election, eh DD? Or do you think that the major parties should be legally obliged to field candidates in every riding?

Tell me DD, how do you feel when the Liberals or Conservatives ask a nobody to give up a riding nomination for a star candidate? Does that star status equate to election fixing?

[costermonger]

As far as this "Conservative Agenda", could you fill me in on what it is exactly?? Is it the election promises that have been kept? I'm below the belled average on knowledge of Canadian Politics so please spell this "Agenda" out for me. Your response may influence my vote next election.

Holy hell. You're absolutely right, political parties don't have agendas.

For f*ck sakes.

Right now, the biggest item on the Conservative's agenda is getting into position to win a majority government. If you dispute this fact, well, I'm sorry, but you're really goddamn stupid. Whether you support them, don't care or hate their very being, you should be able to acknowledge this fact. What the Liberals and the Greens have done in this case is agreed not to "split the left" in the same way that the Alliance and the PC's did for so many years. The net effect is that this will probably make winning this riding significantly harder for the Conservatives, and in some people's minds that fact alone constitutes election fraud.

I can't f*cking believe I had to explain this.

[Wasps rule]

For f*ck sakes.

Right now, the biggest item on the Conservative's agenda is getting into position to win a majority government. If you dispute this fact, well, I'm sorry, but you're really goddamn stupid.

I can't f*cking believe I had to explain this.

Ahem, I don't dispute this fact and I already said, I'm below average, really goddamn stupid might be a stretch though.

So the Conservatives are trying to win a majority eh??? I shudder to think they are content with minority status. Give me something to take to the watercooler tomorrow, I mean even I figured out this majority aspiration, it's hardly an agenda.

I can't f*cking believe I had to explain this.

[costermonger]

I mean even I figured out this majority aspiration, it's hardly an agenda.

I'm so sorry, you're right. They're pursuing an aspiration, not an agenda. That's a whole world of difference.

Political parties exist to pursue an agenda. That's what their for - like minded people pursuing the same goals. "Platform" is just a fancy way to say agenda. There is a Conservative agenda. There is a Liberal agenda. There is an NDP agenda. There is a Bloc agenda. There is a Green agenda. In order for the Conservatives to enact their agenda fully, they've got to win a majority. Therefore, winning that majority goes to the top of their political agenda. Just as preventing that majority win is at the top of everybody else's. As such, their agendas, their goals, will cross.

When they cooperate in attaining this goal, however, it's apparently election fraud.

[still_bluenoser]

Oh great The "agenda" thing!!

Anyway, I've found that in rural NS there are very few people who will vote for the best candidate in a riding. We usually vote for who our parents voted for, and so on. The liberals pulling out of that riding doesn't hurt them at all, they did get some votes, but central nova is notoriously conservative. This tactic will NOT get Peter Mackay out of parliament, It only draws attention to the riding.

[grimey]

looks like the Liberals can add election rigging to their corrupt ideology.

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news ... cb&k=44059

So now NOT running in an election is fraud? I think what Dion is doing is stupid and futile, but it's hardly fraud.

[CD]

Dion is preventing voters of Central Nova from voting for one of the two national parties that have been running Canada since Confederation. What an arrogant p*ick… So much for being a national party.

Of course you do realize that there is only one national party left that has been around since Confederation? The "Conservative" party that exists today was only formed in 2003, when it bought the "Conservative" name from Peter McKay...

[Dust Devil]

I think intentionaly taking away the choice of who a person can or cannot vote for inorder to attempt to secure your own seat can be classified as rigging an election.

So it's possible to legally rig an election, eh DD? Or do you think that the major parties should be legally obliged to field candidates in every riding?

Tell me DD, how do you feel when the Liberals or Conservatives ask a nobody to give up a riding nomination for a star candidate? Does that star status equate to election fixing?

no they should not be legaly obliged to field candidates in every riding. There is a difference when a party says we are not going to field a candidate in this area for the sole reason of trying to secure the seat for a member of a different party.

I have a feeling Miss May is going to be the one burned in this deal. Had she ran in Dion's riding she likely would have clobbered him as Dion is obviously an incompetent leader and maker of enviromental policy. Where as I think May (dispite her left wing ideology) would outclass Dion in these areas. So what does Dion do. He dangles a carrot in front of May in order to distract her from him. Infuences her to go to a riding she has no chance to win, by telling her look we will help you get in then you can be the first green member to actually have a seat. After the election Dion will have his seat and May will be back to the drawing board.

Ethical parties (excluding the bloc) which have the means should attempt to represent every riding in the country. How can the Liberals truely be called a national party when they don't even try.

What prevents all parties from just meeting in a big room and deciding who is going to run where and who is going to represent who. This kind of dealing takes the power away from the voter where it should be.

And to your Star status point is stupid. It doesn't matter if the person is a star or not. When political parties mess with who the members of a riding decided to represent the riding it is messing with the democratic process which is also wrong but a different issue. They still offer that political ideology as an option. The Conservatives did this to us in 2004 and I didn't vote Conservative because of it. So as much as people may think I always follow what the Conservatives do, I don't. If we had a independent conservative in the next election I'd probably vote for him/her.

[Dust Devil]

looks like the Liberals can add election rigging to their corrupt ideology.

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news ... cb&k=44059

So now NOT running in an election is fraud? I think what Dion is doing is stupid and futile, but it's hardly fraud.

I didn't say it was fraud. There was no deception involved at all. The Liberals are so bold these days they announce when they are going to be unethical

[Sheila]

By Lorrie Goldstein

With Parliament resuming today following its two-week Easter break, here are three things all four political parties could immediately do for the good of the nation.

(1) Stop talking about a !@$&#?! spring election.

Has it ever occurred to any of you the reason so many polls show the Tories out in front, but not yet in majority territory — or about where they were after the last election — is Canadians are happy with the way things are?

Maybe they aren’t “volatile” at all. Maybe they don’t trust anyone with a majority, especially after the Liberal AdScam corruption. Maybe they’re not in the mood for a third election in less than three years, at a cost of $250 million. Maybe you should all get back to work. Here’s a few things you can all work on together.

(2) Demand NATO re-enforce our soldiers in Afghanistan.


Canadian troops have been at the sharp end of the stick in the fighting around Kandahar for a long time now.

It’s time other NATO countries started carrying their weight and stopped hiding out in relatively secure Kabul, or making their rules of engagement with the enemy so restrictive they never do any actual fighting.

Liberal Leader Stephane Dion, Bloc Leader Gilles Duceppe and NDP Leader Jack Layton should immediately join Prime Minister Stephen Harper in demanding NATO put a lot more boots on the ground in Kandahar — now. This is a UN-sanctioned, NATO mission. There are lots of countries to draw troops from. Where are they?

(3) Fix medical wait times.

Just two years ago, you all said this was the most important issue confronting Canadians, particularly after the 2005 Supreme Court decision which warned not just Quebec, but all governments in Canada, they either had to reduce medical wait times or allow patients to purchase private care.

Since then, all we’ve heard is self-serving statistics that fudge how long people are actually waiting for care, and, recently, a bizarre declaration from Harper that he had fulfilled his 2005 election promise to deliver a wait times guarantee. Really? On what planet?

Get back to work. All of you.